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China has long been North Korea’s main ally, but its influence over the reclusive nuclear-armed state is being eroded by leader Kim Jong Un’s growing ties with Moscow.

North Korean troops will begin fighting alongside Russian forces as soon as this weekend, Ukraine said Friday — adding new urgency to a stunning turn in the war that has alarmed the Kremlin’s foes but may also be causing a headache for its friends. 

Reports confirmed by Washington this week that North Korea is sending soldiers to Russia to possible battle Ukraine have raised serious concern among the U.S. and its allies, who say their involvement marks a major escalation in the grinding conflict and could deepen security risks for North Korea’s neighbors.

It is also likely to be unwelcome news in China, which has long been North Korea’s main ally but whose influence over the reclusive nuclear-armed state is being eroded by leader Kim Jong Un’s growing relationship with President Vladimir Putin.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It is also likely to be unwelcome news in China, which has long been North Korea’s main ally but whose influence over the reclusive nuclear-armed state is being eroded by leader Kim Jong Un’s growing relationship with President Vladimir Putin.

Ehhhh.

On one hand, yes. North Korea plays Russia against China, and during this war, North Korea can provide things that Russia really wants, so China probably has less direct pull in North Korea than normal.

But...the flip side of that is that China's influence over Russia is also probably at an all-time high, in part as a result of this conflict.

And my guess is that the China-Russia effect is much-more-likely to be a long-lived effect than the Russia-North-Korea effect, due to things like economic and technical ties being established. Just the other day, I read an article talking about how it was expected that North Korea's relationship with Russia would probably do quite a bit to head back in the direction of normal after the war.

My expectation is that China can probably afford to play the long game.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I suppose the real question here is, is Xi bothered enough to actually do something about it, or is this just more grumbling.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

It is probably just grumbling.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 hours ago

Complete utter BS headline.

DPRK getting stronger is a natural effect of US demonic hegemony. And China does not see DPRK getting funding for Russian support as a threat to China. DPRK being a nuclear proxy on US and colonies is an asset to rest of "genuinely free"/multipolar world.

There are no Chinese officials rebuking DPRK quoted.

and that really, in many ways, supplants China as North Korea’s most important protector.”

Pure projection statements for EU's colonial status and their acceptance of Nordstream sabotage. China's support of DPRK is a humanitarian expense. The whole article is reminiscent of BS that Russia and China are deep rivals and hate each other, even as stupidity drives them into very close allies. That DPRK is/gets supported by Russia is no threat to China whatsoever.

Ian Bremer comments are pure worthlessness as well. China's peace plan for Ukraine is the same as Russia's.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 15 hours ago