this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2024
27 points (93.5% liked)

United Kingdom

4076 readers
189 users here now

General community for news/discussion in the UK.

Less serious posts should go in [email protected] or [email protected]
More serious politics should go in [email protected].

Try not to spam the same link to multiple feddit.uk communities.
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric news, and should be either a link to a reputable source, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread.

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Do you think he's right?

top 13 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I'd welcome them back today if I had a say. Just no extra sausage anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

God yes please. And can we boot Farage off the island when it happens.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

THE BRI'ISH PEOPLE VOTED FOR BREXIT GET OVER IT REMOANERS

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Prime cut of gammon there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I can see clear calls in 15 years. But likely another 10-20 before those calls agree on any approach to join.

There will be a huge we should get what we had push making any actual agreement impossible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I expect (at least) one party will eventually adopt Rejoin as a distinguishing policy, and maybe sooner rather later.

But the appetite for Rejoin will probably depend on the shape of the UK economy and the political direction of the EU in 10+ years. If the Starmer project really has been delivering tangible growth by then, people may feel Brexit has (inadvertently) “worked” in the end. If the EU achieves greater and greater integration in the UK’s absence it may seem less palatable to enough voters.

Both of those are also going to be influenced by external factors like the direction of a possible Trump second term, the outcome of the war in Ukraine etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I would hypothesise now that the UK has left, France's proposals for a closer integrated EU standing army and two-speed EU are much more likely to go ahead.

Because of that I see a future in 20 years for something like a three-speed EU:

  1. Full integration.
  2. Free movement of goods and people.
  3. Mutual recognition of qualifications and frictionless framework for EU standard goods back and forth across the boarder. With a seat but no voting rights for the discussion of said standards.
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

His optimism for Britain to rejoin the bloc is not matched by Jean-Claude Juncker, another former European Commission chief, who in July suggested it would take “a century or two”.

Somewhere between 15 years and two centuries is a good guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I hope so. Though 15 years may be a bit optimistic. The UK has passed through the phase of leaving the EU being a benefit in itself (freeing it up to rule the waves once again unfettered by the whims of politically-correct vino-drinking bureaucrats and such), and, faced with the sunk cost of its folly, has retreated into denial. Brexit may have cost us dearly, it goes, but it’s a price we have to pay to be true to our destiny, rather than pretending to be just another small country interchangeable with Spaniards and Belgians. Eventually the fit of pique will end and the consensus will settle on Brexit being a bit shite, and there not being any meaningful glorious destiny for which it is a price worth paying, and the question is how do we become like the Spaniards or Belgians (or, indeed, the Irish), enjoying the conveniences of the EU. It may take a generation though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

It will be even funnier if Britain rejoins and then immediately leaves again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Ancient flag shagging Tories...... Hard Left Labour unions..... With these powers combined they become:

CAPTAIN BREXIT! He's their hero. Gonna bring the UK down to zero. Did a skid. Killed a kid. And crashed his balls on a dustbin lid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

The sooner the better. The architects and enablers of Brexit should be tried as traitors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago