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[–] [email protected] 28 points 14 hours ago

How funny would it be if the rest of the world made another UN also called UN and then USA and Israel don't get invited?

sicko-wistful

[–] [email protected] 11 points 13 hours ago

the US is going to bomb moldova as punishment

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 23 points 17 hours ago

#BREAKING

Words don't have meaning anymore

[–] [email protected] 53 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I put forwards the suggestion that the US and Israel be thrown out of the UN for genocide.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

US vetoes expulsion action

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The United States and Britain both opposed suspending South Africa from the UN, but that was put through. I think the Veto only applies to the Security Council, not the General Assembly? This would mean that the General Assembly could carry this out and has precedent for it.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 18 hours ago

Nothing.

They have the same vote every year.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 19 hours ago

What happens next? Next session the UN will vote on a resolution titled “Necessity of ending the economic, commercial and financial embargo imposed by the United States of America against Cuba”.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Answer: Nothing.

Since 1992, the UN General Assembly has passed a non-binding resolution every year, except for 2020, condemning the ongoing impact of the embargo and declaring it in violation of the Charter of the United Nations and of international law. Israel is the only country that routinely joins the U.S. in voting against the resolution. Other countries that voted against the resolution in the past include Romania in 1992, Albania and Paraguay in 1993, Uzbekistan from 1995 to 1997, Marshall Islands from 2000 to 2007, Palau from 2004 to 2009 then once in 2012, and Brazil in 2019. 187 countries voted in favor of the resolution in 2024, with only the United States and Israel voting against it and Moldova abstaining.

If it is a violation for the Charter, then fucking do something you goddamn libs.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

We now have rogue states who are supposedly UN member states banning UN agencies from their territory. If that doesn’t show people how cucked the UN is I don’t know what will.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What would it take to un-cuck the UN?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

US willingly or forcefully being removed from its obviously dominant position.

Assuming the world even agrees upon having a "UN" in some form or another, the only "fair" way to do it would be a system not representative of nations but rather of people. Unfortunately this would result in the third world having all of the power, and we can't have that of course! For reasons! So, the US is highly unlikely to surrender the power and no one can really do anything about it for the time being... what a wonderful world... the non-western aligned nations can either suck it up as they have been doing and maintain whatever sliver of protection and legitimacy the UN provides. Or leave the UN and have nothing.

I've considered before the possibility of the big countries leaving, like China, India, Russia (and other smaller ones) and forming a new UN with their first resolution being to condemn the old, fake servant of US imperialism. If every nation on earth did something like that, minus the EU and US for obvious reasons, I guess it doesn't really solve the problem but it would... do something? I dunno. The last year has proven the total meaninglessness of the UN ultimately. It's basically just a way to "legitimize" US policies abroad and give other countries a small chance to yell at the US... but the evil shit is still happening regardless. This was always the case and always clear but holy shit has the past year really really shone on a light on how bad it actually is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I hear you. I've certainly radicalized a lot over the last year. 2020 me begrudgingly voted Biden as part of a "swap". 2024 me wants to burn everything down.

It feels so hopeless being in the belly of the beast, living in the middle of the bad country, and seeing even "comrades" in my Discord defend voting for Kamala. I'm dealing with a bad bout of depression and can't wait for next Tuesday to be over to maybe get a breather.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 18 hours ago

It just happened. They voted on it, now it's solved. If nothing changes they'll send a mildly worded letter to whom it may concern

[–] [email protected] 36 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They do it again next year with the same result bear-despair

[–] [email protected] 28 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Apparently Argentina fired their foreign minister for voting against the US, so maybe there'll be another one for the embargo next year to support US, to make up for Israel being gone. Manifesting... Manifesting...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Venezuela absent from the vote? Not a good look my dude

[–] [email protected] 51 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

They literally can’t vote because of the US sanctions against them preventing them from collecting the funds to pay UN fees. They’ve been suspended from voting for a couple of years now

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

Hmmmm, you're under sanctions and cant afford the sanction issuing country club fees? Sorry sweaty, can't help you!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

I was being ironic, for any country under as much duress as Venezuela it would make sense why their attendance record wasn't 100%.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't only Moldova abstain or am I missing a joke or something?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Venezuela is non-voting, different from abstain.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for clearing that up! What's the difference?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Abstain means the country voted "Abstain"

Non-voting means no vote was recorded, probably because the country was not present.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

They want into EU and finally figured you don't apply for that in Brussels but in Washington.