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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Remember when Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

I 'member.

Twas Dickity 14 or so, and I plan to make good on Microsofts words.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

The herd keeps me secure

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Still cheaper than my Arch Premium membership

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago

Thank you for your service to Linux adoption o7

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Wait. They want me to pay for something I already paid for?

Well guess my $2.5k new windowless machine is looking better everyday.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You actually paid for Windows?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Oh yeah. Windows XP Professional 64 bit. Each "upgrade" used the same license and never really got screwy until 10. Won't go to 11.

Edit: Actually I don't think I even paid for that, I think it was an OEM license my dad got from his work.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

This is like people complaining about how Ubuntu 16.04 LTS support ended not long ago (2021-04-29)

Or macOS 10.9 Mavericks (2016-12-01)

Or Android 6.0 (2018-08-01)

Or Debian 8 "Jessie" (2018-06-17)

Or Linux Mint 17 (2019-07-01)

Or Fedora 23 (2016-12-20)

Or Slackware 14.1 (2024-01-01)

Of all of these, not even Slackware comes close to how long Microsoft has supported Windows 10 post release (2015)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

To my knowledge upgrading to the newer release of any of those linux distros was not blocked by having only slightly old and perfectly serviceable hardware.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

To my knowledge upgrading to the newer release of any of those linux distros did not cost any money to the users, either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I migrated someone running mission critical software off of CentOS 6 this year.

People hate upgrades.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Windows XP. 2001–2019. If 10 beats that I'll be impressed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

2014.... the POS edition (basically LTSC) was 2019

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, but you don't migrate to Windows 11 from those.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Considering that when people paid $100 for that OS they were told that it would be the "last Windows to be released", shouldn't there be a class action lawsuit?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

They weren't told that, that was an off-hand comment by an employee (not even a spokesperson) that the media took and ran with. Source:

Right now we're releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we're all still working on Windows 10.

I think they meant "latest" not "last."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

For what it's worth

"Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers," says a Microsoft spokesperson in a statement to The Verge. "We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations."

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Windows will be delivered as a service

Which is largely true, there have been a number of "service packs" that were released as regular updates throughout the Windows 10 lifespan. So it definitely seems they want people to not think about the specific Windows version they're on. From that article:

Microsoft could opt for Windows 11 or Windows 12 in future, but if people upgrade to Windows 10 and the regular updates do the trick then everyone will just settle for just "Windows" without even worrying about the version number.

Windows 7, for example, had one major service pack, with a few isolated updates, whereas Windows 10 had a major update about every 6 months, and each one of those checkpoints was supported for about a year and a half. The final update was at the end of 2022, and it's support runs 3 years.

So yeah, I think they met what they said, but the messaging wasn't particularly clear how long that support would be provided for.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (5 children)

I like all the comments ready to take a fisting in the ass from Microsoft just to keep Windows 10.

If you raised a fucking stink instead of taking this shitty deal, they may be forced to keep supporting it for free anyway like they did with Windows 7.

They've really got you guys cowed into paying for the convenience of getting fucked, don't they?

This is a company with a market cap of $3.04 trillion and you guys are just gonna bend over and take it for $30 bucks? Wew lad. They don't need your fucking thirty dollars, and you fucking know it. It's a god damned shakedown.

Microsoft: Wouldn't it be a shame if your computer was somehow insecure and got hacked?

Sounds like a Mafioso showing up for protection money to me.

EDIT: There's still about 700 million Windows 10 PC's still on the market. If every single existing Windows 10 machine paid for this service, Microsoft would make $21 billion dollars next year off this alone. It's a shakedown, do the fucking math. (700,000,000 x $30 = $21,000,000,000) Even if only half do it, it's still a cool $10.5 billion.

EDIT II: This also normalizes the practice of paying for security updates for consumers. You really want to take us down that path where every security update is paid?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

It would make sense if Microsoft was liable for any security faults. I’d actually pay for something like that but of course you’re probably paying for some nebulous promise of something between security at best effort basis and whatever they feel like.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (4 children)

Why l would pay 30$ to dumpester fire OS to use it securely for another year when l could install Linux for free with more than 7 year security?

And consumers can only pay for single year.

It just shows how M$ doesn't care about their costumers treating them like lab rats.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I switched to Linux myself but can we please stop lying about Linux being a drop-in replacement? There is enough sofware that does not work.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

A lot of Linux users here think the conversation begins and ends with game support. A lot of us use our computers for work and there is a lot of productivity and creative software that does not play nice with Linux. I've probably said this a dozen times here before but I'll say it again: Not all of us use our computers solely for gaming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

Honestly I figure "work computers" are often overlooked because many companies force windows for their ~~spying~~ "productivity monitoring" apps.

That said, there's always "having a work computer and a separate secure personal computer." The linux machine doesn't even have to be particularly powerful, it could be whatever old used machine (w/o nvidia) you can get your hands on.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (6 children)

theres also a lot of productivity and creative software that does. linux for work is way better than linux for gaming and id bet 80%+ of people can work off it much better.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

“Enrolled PCs will continue to receive Critical and Important security updates for Windows 10; however, new features, bug fixes, and technical support will no longer be available from Microsoft,” explains Yusuf Mehdi, executive vice president and consumer chief marketing officer at Microsoft.

Don’t threaten me with a good time.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone who's had to open a Microsoft support ticket can assure you technical support is already not available from Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

You have to be a really, really big company with an established connection with Microsoft to actually talk to the real engineers. Any tier of regular support only gets you the "sfc and clean boot" garbage.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 hours ago (18 children)

$30 to not have to deal with Windows 11 for another year feels like the deal of the century.

I love how they're like 'but you won't get new features!'. They may have still not figured out that nobody cares about 'new features' being stuffed into the OS, but I guess you can't have everything.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

Fuck me harder, Daddy Microsoft.

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