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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by possiblylinux127 to c/[email protected]
 

Can't wait for Android 15 that looks almost exactly like Android 12

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

More updates = better, of course!

Most of the updates seem to be features or UI changes that nobody asked for.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago

We're excited that we've removed the ability to close apps!

[–] possiblylinux127 6 points 3 weeks ago

Some of them have been pretty nice. However, the release's are more frequent without the changes and improvements. I like all the new APIs and theming but those aren't something you can do in 3 months.

[–] JasonDJ 55 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Y'all don't understand semantic versioning.

Google does a major release pretty much yearly.

Major releases are for breaking changes.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's exactly what we're complaning about. Major release cycle used to be much longer. Now they have this need to break things all the time. I hate the new bubble settings UI, and that everything keeps getting worse to use instead of better.

[–] JasonDJ 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Then...don't upgrade?

I'm sorry I don't see what the problem is here. This is a typical release schedule.

iOS has the same schedule (major release yearly). At least Google supports and patches for over 3 years. Apple is supporting 17 and 18 and that's it. Android is still patching 12-15.

Mobile hardware is probably the fastest developing
corner of consumer electronics...between processors, screens, and battery technology. Of course software will have to change fast to keep up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not upgrading is not an option if you don't want your highly connecting device to remain secure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Why does software have to change to keep up with any of those? Old software can run on new hardware just fine.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Now what does that say about regular major releases?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You might not notice it but us Android devs do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

It's a wild Alot!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It's the worst treadmill. By the time I finish implementing/refactoring something, they replace it with a new standard and deprecate the old way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

New devs: "wow a new sdk version"

Old devs: "Ah fuck I've gotta change how we request permissions again"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I'm still pissed about them removing the menu button that all of my apps used to depend on back in the day. Now it's the whole selective file permissions dance giving me a headache.

[–] dch82 3 points 3 weeks ago

Move fast and break ~~things~~ developers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Skill issue

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

This is creepy. I was just thinking this an hour ago. Android used to have incremental updates (8.1.2 amirite) but now theybjust brand it as a new version when there's like one or two new "features" no one will use.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah, they look almost the same. I can't remember the last time I got an update and noticed it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Got Android 15 recently. The volume bar is twice as big now! I thought it was just a visual difference but volume is now more finely tuned, as in it goes from 0 to 20 instead of 0 to 10 and steps by 1. (Not sure of the real numbers)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Last update that had a noticeable GUI change for me was when they switched navigation default from 3-button to gesture. Fortunately they still have the option for 3-button.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I liked the introduction of gestures, so much screen space was lost to those buttons.

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[–] possiblylinux127 3 points 3 weeks ago

I can remember updating but it is almost a pointless exercise. (lineage OS requires manual version updates)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lucky MF, all my androids at least 3 years out of date

[–] possiblylinux127 4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Manufacture Android is often way out of date. They rarely even ship security patches

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait until you find out that Android 16 is coming out in Q2 2025.

[–] possiblylinux127 7 points 3 weeks ago

And it will be exactly the same as 15,14,13...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

You weren't even joking. Dev previews coming soon

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Android looks good. Why do they have the change the look again when not nearly every app is even using Material You?

I'd rather performance, power, and more capabilities like desktop mode.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Because if they slow down people won't upgrade as fast because the manufacturers pledge "X number of versions" updates not years. So if Google slows down manufacturers would have to support longer. Gotta keep that money flowing in because Google gets a cut of sales.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago

Wut? The major manufacturers I've paid attention to, who've made update support promises, have done "X years" not "X versions"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

What? I've never heard of that in my life. Years, yes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've observed this substantially more with iOS updates vs. Android.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s not true for either one. Both Apple and Android OEMs pledge support for years not versions.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They finally have multiline app names in beta for the pixel... Idk why it's taking them so long. My old crusty motorola displays long names just fine; its crazy that it took until Android 15 just to get a beta of that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's probably something like "why would you want to waste precious resources on something so small" or whatever, which just leads to shitty messes everywhere

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

And in Nova it's a simple setting you can toggle for every screen separately.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

People justifying their jobs. Can't wait for these megacorps to be broken up

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I have a pixel phone running GrapheneOs. I just realized i'm running Android 15.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Bigger number = better = money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I can't wait for the next version with even more hard to disable messages about apps sending late number of text messages (I know I'm sending thousands, I wrote the dam program, no I won't be charged)

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