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'It's simple, really' - why Latinos flocked to Trump (www.bbc.com)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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"It's simple, really. We liked the way things were four years ago," said Samuel Negron, a Pennsylvania state constable and member of the large Puerto Rican community in the city of Allentown.

Donald Trump achieved a decisive victory over Kamala Harris, capturing key demographics that traditionally supported Democrats. He gained substantial support from white working-class voters, saw a 14-point increase among Latino voters, and performed better than expected with younger voters, especially men.

Economic concerns, particularly inflation, were central to Trump’s appeal, with voters across states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin favoring his promises of lower prices and stricter immigration policies.

Harris struggled to retain support in diverse and working-class areas, as voters blamed Democrats for economic hardships.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Too many ignorant dumbasses that can't understand the concept of delayed effects. The upturn in the economy during Trump's last time in office was a delayed effect of Obama's administration. The shit we're in now is because of Trump's. This shit has happened every single time a Republican has been in office during my life. They fuck everything up, but the effects aren't seen until they're gone.

Outside of the economy: This dumb orange prick was in office during the height of the COVID pandemic and people are still dying from that. If you think it was better 4 years ago, you must have been hiding under a rock.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 34 minutes ago

yep, economy is like cold molasses.

The presidents effect on the economy only really starts to come about in their 3rd and 4th year. the first year or two is just carry over, good or bad, from the previous admin.

But that takes thinking.. and if theres one thinks Americans hate more than eachother, its having to hurt themselves by using the weird thinky head hurty meats.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

Politicians should be able to communicate effectively, and part of that is knowing your audience. The Democrats failed to reach the working class, it's that simple.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 35 minutes ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

“It’s simple, really. We liked the way things were four years ago,” said Samuel Negron, a Pennsylvania state constable and member of the large Puerto Rican community in the city of Allentown.

They apparently liked being stuck in their house while the entire economy tanked, they had to wipe their ass with their own hands, and a dumb ass told them that we'd perhaps look into injecting cleaners to protect themselves from a novel virus that was killing anywhere from 3-10% of the people that initially got it...because that was four years ago.

[+] [email protected] -10 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

A worldwide pandemic was not Trump's fault. If you want to blame him for anything, blame him for listening to Foucci, who was seen as the expert and advising him on what to do. And actually, trump left it up to state governments on whether to follow Foucci's advice. A lot less businesses closed in places like Florida and Arizona because they didn't shut everything down.

Latinos voted for trump because they were sick of smug elites telling them they needed to alter their own language (latinx was a huge failure among the latino population), and how their hard work and earnings didnt really add up to what they felt it did, because of their skin color. Top it off with claiming that even though butter in places like CA is $7 and eggs are $6, the economy was actually better than ever before, and they were just too stupid to understand that.

Loving all these mask-off moments. You're still here, telling Latinos that they actually didnt vote how they did because of reasons they gave, must be because they liked COVID era lockdowns or something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 54 minutes ago

I upvoted you because I think you're about the one person stating the reasons a lot of people give for voting Trump. However, I do quite strongly disagree with all of them:

A worldwide pandemic was not Trump’s fault.

Trump loves to take credit for the low inflation and low gas prices after the pandemic in 2020. So if he's taking credit for that, he should be taking credit for the cause too. Of course, that's spin. The fact is reality is complicated, and none of this things can really be attributed to Trump.

Latinos voted for trump because they were sick of smug elites telling them they needed to alter their own language

Ok so we're talking about the person who is going to run the federal government that sets tax policy, handles emergencies, etc. and has utterly no power over people's language. And honestly, whoever these people saying others "needed to alter their language" are, if they exist at all, I'm pretty sure it's not Kamala Harris. I get that maybe you're trying to provide a justification that isn't necessarily yours in particular, but this example is a particularly egregiously silly reason to vote for president.

Top it off with claiming that even though butter in places like CA is $7 and eggs are $6, the economy was actually better than ever before, and they were just too stupid to understand that.

Ok so tell us then, what policy of Biden's caused inflation? Here's a chart of Monthly CPI data, as you can see the rise in inflation was basically Jan 2021 (the month before he took office) to June 2022, before it started to come down. So what policy of Biden's was impacting the economy over that period? Keep in mind you'll also have to explain how it impacted the whole global economy in a similar way.

For example, if I were arguing the other way, I would say that Trump's tax cuts for the rich in 2017, which dumped trillions of dollars into the economy, have had ample time by 2021 to alter the balance of production lead to price increases in multiple consumer goods. As the investor class tends to spend money on a global scale and the US has by far the most extremely rich people, it's unsurprising that it would impact other countries. There, now you try, but with Biden instead.

Or don't. Because the reality is in the overall aura of your comment. "Smug elites", one of many labels used very successfully to paint Democrats as undesirable and disgusting. It's about what team people wanted to be on. Trump painted himself as Team Alpha Male, complete with Hulk Hogan there to cheer him on. And he painted the other side as, to be blunt, a bunch of gross trans women. That messaging is no different from what beer vendors, truck makers, etc. have used successfully for decades. And it worked again here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Hello? Can I have you shittiest take? No...that's far too shitty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

Its a .ml user, what do you expect?

They are all for anything thats Russian.

That includes Trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

I know:)

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What's shitty about it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The words that you wrote. All of it

[–] [email protected] -1 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

But you can't tell me why it's shitty?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

I did! I did tell you why. It's the words you chose to write.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

At least they will get what they asked for.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Inb4 they get deported and denaturalized.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

They voted for thst. I will not shed a tear.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 hours ago

Trump voters are stupid and have poor memories.

Except for the ones who are just plain evil.

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