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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago (7 children)

As someone of the earth sciences it is my opinion that whoever drew this has exactly zero understanding of "natural geographic borders".

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you draw us a better map then?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nobody got time for that. But yeah this map seems to be more or less randomly generated, it messes with a lot of borders that are already geographically defined. Seems like they just made everything into an irregular shape and assumed people wouldn't look too closely.

US states were in large part created to reflect natural geographic divisions already. They were frequently drawn up on maps before having any significant population centers, so geographical boundaries were the primary focus. A secondary focus being equality, so not making any state too big or small relative to its neighbors.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Right???? This map changes borders that are already based on rivers and natural geographical features.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know a couple of guys that can help.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Thank you, this makes me happy

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

The fact that the Mississippi River isn’t being used as a border anymore in some states bother me. But I’d love to see your take.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

100% agree. As an Oregonian, that border on the Willamette made me wanna cry. Literally no consideration of nature or people with that boundary, and yet it’s called a “natural border”.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Looking at Long Island, I find it interesting that they chose the Hudson River as a natural boundary but apparently Long Island Sound is no big deal

I can’t figure out what Rhode Island’s border is meant to be but it apparently doesn’t include Rhode Island

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

New Jersey is glaringly bad

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Eh!!??!! Stay on your side of the 49th parallel!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I see Washington and Montana there. Fuck off with your 54-40 bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

State borders if we sliced through major population centers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess it worked for Kansas City, right? Be prepared for NYC NY, vs NYC CT

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I get why rivers and creeks and streams were historically convenient borders, but when we started building cities along them it got weird. Then some mf'er invented the bridge and it all went to hell.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Philly? In New Jersey? Are you trying to start riots??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Deleware River that is as wide as a 33+ lane highway is not a natural border? Wacky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Mine now. We'll combine it with Atlantic City and make Gotham which will somehow take up like the entire south part of the state together.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Asking the Colonial powers to not make weirdly straight unnatural borders is like asking Russia to stop ~~invading~~ occupying it's neighbours land

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

My heart wants to like this on principle because that's how geography should be divided, but it looks like garbage. I never really stopped before to appreciate how tidy and professional those arbitrary perpendicular lines look.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

MA using the dark side of the Force

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I still like this version of a natural American borders:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I quad this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This makes my brain itch, in the best way. Oklahoma got much bigger, I approve.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But it lost its panhandle. Sadge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

You mean the Texas Slavery Ensurer?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

But we're still doing better than Florida, which had so much more panhandle sliced off, all the best bits, like Destin! F that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I will die before I'm a fucking Wisconsinite. Love, a proud Illinoisian.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Where we goin? Should I pack boots or flip flops?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Omg, imagine looking natural & normal

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It looks so... gloopy!

I like how some states are basically identical. Florida is a given and NH is just kinda like "what happened to you guys?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I find it beautiful. Something in my subcountious doesn't compute borders in straight line

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

NH missed the opportunity of the Merrimack River as a border….. plus the Saint Laurence Seaway up north, oui?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Kansas looks like a mini map!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What specific geographic borders were used? Or is it just sort of random to look organic?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like watersheds to me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I can definitely see the Mississippi River still, so I don't think it's watersheds. Unless they're using peaks and troughs both. I'm sure there's a term for it. My understanding of water shed is that it means everything that flows into a river so a river would be in the middle. So the borders of watersheds are more like mountains than rivers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

well the bottom of Georgia has a weird tab sticking out usually because of a river border, so I assume you're right

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Mimel looks like he ate too many shrooms and is having a rough day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

this looks much normaler, but the edgy things are funny.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really like this for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It’s so comfy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I'd like to see a map with cultural boundaries. As a resident of NE Florida I can say we might as well be part of Georgia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

The US snacking on Mexico while Canada munches them back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I like the idea of watersheds, especially given gestures generally at US and the sky/climate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As always Florida is Florida It’s a law of nature nothing before nor after can be Florida, Florida is eternal just like the geriatrics in there nursing homes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

eternal

Well, at least until it's under water, anyway.