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It seems to me that Republicans and the Christian Nationalists they are in bed with are going to be immovably pro-Israel. How do we prevent our government from participating in this genocide as these new politicians take power?

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Lol.

Too late.

Palestine will cease to exist.

Why?

Because Donald Trump only helps those who he can directly benefit from. Palestine cannot benefit him. Israel can.

If you want to help Palestine, build a time machine, go back in time, and tell every liberal/independent fool who voted 3rd party or abstained from voting over the whole Palestine thing to do the smart thing instead.

Elections have consequences, and every last American is about to find that out the real hard way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Palestine will cease to exist.

You mean Israel has been trying, and failing, to do since 1948?

You sure do give white supremacists a lot of credit, don't you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You mean Israel has been trying, and failing, to do since 1948?

Have they tried as hard as they're trying right now? Did they have someone named Donald Trump who was interested in helping them, or at least entirely getting out of their way while they do it, instead of putting up some form of resistance to the idea of them wiping Palestine out?

You sure do give white supremacists a lot of credit, don’t you?

I wouldn't call it credit. I'd call it reading a history book and undestanding how far white supremacists are willing to go when given enough power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago

Have they tried as hard as they’re trying right now?

Nope. They have never been this desperate.

Did they have someone named Donald Trump who was interested in helping them

The (so-called) "west" has been interested in helping them since 1948. That's why they have the kind of firepower now they could only have dreamt of in 1948 - and they are failing nonetheless.

or at least entirely getting out of their way

The US isn't standing in their way. Palestinians with RPG-7s are standing in their way.

white supremacists are willing to go when given enough power.

White supremacism gave itself all the power it wanted all over the world. And yet, despite this power, one by one the colonialist chickens was forced to come home to roost after the failure of white supremacism to remain dominant in the colonized world. It's now the US's turn to experience that failure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel even worse since I did vote for Harris, although live in a red ass state so it doesn't amount to much (hopefully I'll move out next year).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I definitely recommend getting out while you can. Move somewhere that affords you more rights and has a stronger economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I can't afford to move to another country though (neither can most Americans), so I can only move to a state that isn't red. As much as I'll still have to deal with President Trump, at least a non-Republican state would try to mitigate/fight back in ways

I'm planning to move to Puerto Rico, which unlike every other state/territory in the country, its party system does not align with the national one (similar to Quebec in Canada), but more politicians there are nationally affiliated with Democrats than with Republicans, and from what I know, while Trump enjoys support among a chunk of stateside Puerto Ricans much like other Hispanics, Trump isn't very popular there considering he neglected them after Hurricane Maria and tried to sell it, as well as the more recent "island of garbage" shenanigans

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If got time machine, go back and stop all religion from forming, problem solved atheist utopia

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 days ago (27 children)

Vote Harris... Wait. Damnit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Too late bud

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (16 children)

Pray. That's all you have left.

You think he will ever listen to you even if you demonstrate?

You're going to enjoy a medieval monarchy, and more than half of the country either wants it or can't be bothered with it because they have better things to do.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

You’re going to enjoy a medieval monarchy

Yup. Average Americans are going to lose so much of what little power we had over the next handful of years. Hope we're all happy we chose this for ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

You know, Republicans have long been the "thoughts and prayer" party. Are you saying that we have now become the COUNTRY of "thoughts and prayers"? Dammit all.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago

Sorry to break it to you, but you can't.

There are a few remaining checks and balances on other issues, and the Democratic Party might be able to use its minority in Congress to strategically delay certain things. But foreign policy is entirely in the President and Congress's domain. And while Republicans in Congress sometimes have internal bickering that derails their agenda, I expect Trump and Congress to march lock-step on this one. (Their marching might even be a bit like a goose step, come to think of it.)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago

this genocide is The conclusion of a 50-year crusade by the Israelis, and Trump said he's fully on board with Netanyahu finishing his attack on Palestine.

and dumps is going to be in charge of The US military in a couple months.

so there isn't much you can do

this will be one more concluded genocide in the books.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

There are none. This is game over for Palestinians, Ukranians, and 99% of Americans. Mango Hitler controls all branches of the government, and every check and balance has been removed.

Even if there was evidence of massive voter fraud on Trump's part, it wouldn't matter. Anyone who could do anything about it is on his team.

The US democracy is dead.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It’s probably worth asking “what are the next steps for citizens of Portugal to stop the destruction of Palestine?”

Or Honduras or Australia or South Korea or Madagascar.

Because it’s now the same answer. You can do whatever you as a private citizen can do. Our friend’s dad travelled to Palestine and rode in on a boat loaded with construction supplies, sort of “throwing his body” in the path of the IDF to directly physically help Palestinians (he’s Jewish, btw).

Of course this was before this full scale war. I wouldn’t recommend this action now. Send money to aid groups. Whatever you could do from the suburbs of Cartegena, that’s what you can do as an American.

You can’t do anything about the policy from the top now. That’s a sealed envelope.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am stealing someone else’s idea (can’t remember whose), but just make non-stop memes about Trump being Netanyahu’s pet, and let the narcissism run wild. If everyone one on social media was sharing memes about Trump being Netanyahu’s bitch especially after Netanyahu said Biden was better than Trump, I believe there would be ton of budget cuts to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

pet

In a subby gimp plaything kind of way.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

We don't? We lost. I'm going to go back to huddling in the corner.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

How do we prevent our government

It's really simple. You start getting your head around the idea of actually OPPOSING your own government.

Don't pretend you don't know how to do this. Antifa and BLM have already shown you how to do this.

[–] trumpsdiaper 11 points 3 days ago

the best time to get educated about what a fascist american government looks like is 20-25 years ago. the second best time is... wait, too late

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Convince a fuckton of electors to go rogue and vote Harris in January. Of course you'd have a better chance at winning the lottery than that

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Be billionaire and outbid Netanyahu

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Keep blocking shipments of arms, figure out how to dismantle AIPAC, boost the voices of Palestinians and anti-Zionist Jews, follow BDS, donate to organizations like Palestinian Children's Relief and the Palestine Red Crescent Society as well as individual families at gazafunds.com.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

On the arms shipments, we may try lawsuits via the Leahy Law if the ethnic cleansing ramps up. The way the law is written, it actually looks at arms shipments all the way down to the granular level of individual military units. It does not say arms cannot be exported to countries engaging in war crimes, it specifically says individual military units that commit war crimes cannot receive arms. If they choose to engage in a broader campaign of organized displacement out of Gaza or starvation in places where combat has largely died down, a larger number of military units could potentially become implicated, which could maybe make a lawsuit more feasible. We'll have to see.

Regarding AIPAC, since Citizen's United determined that monetary donations are a form of speech, this requires either an amendment or recapture of the Supreme Court. Otherwise Americans are allowed to lobby the government for whatever they wish, even if they are doing so at the behest of a foreign government. They have to disclose that, but so long as they do, they are simply exercising their Constitutional rights as perceived by the current Supreme Court. This isn't going away any time soon, the current law is very clear and pretty much ironclad, rooted in the Constitution itself via the Bill of Rights.

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