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Amsterdam bans all protests after attacks on Israeli football fans (www.euronews.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by BrikoX to c/globalnews

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Dutch authorities said five were hospitalised and 62 detained after attackers targeted Israeli football fans before and after a match in the country's capital.

Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20241109020030/https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/11/08/amsterdam-bans-all-protests-after-attacks-on-israeli-football-fans

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I heard these Israelis were going around looking to pick a fight?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yup. The media is framing this as antisemitism, but it's not, it's anti-shitheadism. It's in this article, but they've buried it:

Amsterdam's police chief said that Maccabi supporters set a Palestinian flag on fire and attacked a taxi a day before the match was set to take place.

Ahead of the game, a Palestinian flag was ripped off a building in the city centre and riot police blocked pro-Palestinian supporters from marching toward the stadium, according to Dutch broadcaster NOS.

Yeah, that's what started it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

We’re the same people that attacked the taxi and the flag the same people who were attacked? If they were the same people, it’s anti dickehead behaviour. If it’s other supporters, connected only by their nationality, then calling it antisemitism is not a stretch.

[+] [email protected] -28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A day before the match

So a whole day later, and people organized an indiscriminate attack against Israelis...

Sorry, you can't support this unless you believe that violence is an appropriate response to another person's national origin.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Violence is an appropriate response to another person's violence

[+] [email protected] -7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can't just start hitting a random person of the same origin and claim this to be justified.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The victim mentality is just in your head. Others just see an asshole who is burning down your flag and abusing you with death threats.

You pretend as if your nationality is visible to people like a banner... but it's not. It's just your behavior.

When you behave like an asshole and indulge in violence and spew hatred you expect people to respect your origin?

Edit:

Also: you should look at yourself in the mirror. These so called football fans were saying "Fuck Arabs". You're a hypocrite if you think this is ok, but then shomehow think Jews are targeted for being jews but not the threatening of Arabs and burning of flags.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

One person tore down a flag.

The next day, dozens of Israelis were attacked, regardless of their association with this person.

They were attacked for being Israeli. Most Israelis were born in Israel and have no other citizenships. Generally you don't get to choose what country you were born in...

Every day, the pro-palestine left proves that it has fallen for antisemitic propaganda. You have an excuse now for committing violence against any Jew or Israeli that you want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Every day, the pro-israeli right proves that it has fallen for anti-Palestinan propaganda. You have an excuse now for committing violence against any Palestinian or Arabs that you want.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sorry, but the news text read as if this was retaliation for acts which happened a day before. You are telling me instead, they were attacked while chanting and ripping flags, which would make this a different story but still an act of violence.

Edit: could we just stop this whole bullshit and act decent to other sentient beings?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't see people calling for decency when it's brown people on the receiving end. I only see people calling for decency when people call out/fight back against the agressors.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am sorry, if my words somehow offended you. I never intended them to be interpreted in such a way, nor am I limiting my compassion by skin color or species.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I meant to reply to the other person.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maccabi Tel Aviv fans are not the ones bombing Gaza. The only logic you're following here is that being Israeli means you're fair game.

Remember how in post-9/11 America violence against Arabs residents and businesses skyrocketed, despite their only connection being country of origin, ethnicity, or religion? That's what Jews around the world are experiencing because of Gaza - because of people like you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Maccabi Tel Aviv fans are not the ones bombing Gaza

You're so close to self realization. Neither are the Arabs living in Amsterdam part of Hamas. Yet that didn't stop these Israelis from burning flags, taunting people, saying horrible things like "Fuck Arabs" and causing trouble in the Netherlands of all places.

Israeli people spewed venom, burnt palestinian flags and taunted amsterdam residents. You're saying that retaliating is antisemitic. I say that's bullshit.

Remember how in post-9/11 America violence against Arabs residents and businesses skyrocketed, despite their only connection being country of origin, ethnicity, or religion? That's what Jews around the world are experiencing because of Gaza - because of people like you.

You seem to be manufacturing the racism by twisting what I said. I only said those who choose violence shouldn't be surprised people are retaliating with violence. It's not my problem that you incorrectly think people are retaliating because of your origin instead of your behavior.

The behavior of the Maccaba Tel Aviv fans had consequences. Now Israel and the general media is trying to avoid talking about the behavior that started all this and deliberately focusing on the retaliation as if it happened because of the identities of the people.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes they attacked an arab taxi driver and ripped down flags, as well as chanting genocidal songs

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

On the ground reporting from Dutch young journalist Bender: https://youtu.be/ySHIOYyJ95A
Turn on English closed captions. See for yourself what happened and how these hooligans came to our town to riot. This has nothing to do with antisemitism, and everything to do with racist football hooligans supporting Israels actions in Gaza

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

This kind is doing a better job as a journalist than 90% of the profession.

They have a donation page. I just dropped them some coins.