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Official Title of this Community: Ethnic Minorities and People of Color

Why is the title different?

We like to have fun here.

What is this place? A safe space for underrepresented peoples and peoples of color to talk, chill, and vibe.

What are the basic rules of the community?

  1. Follow Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines. Non negotiable. This is the bedrock and mods will make decisions with this always in mind.

  2. This community is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This is a safe space where such people can freely discuss their struggles, insight, and thoughts without fear. If you are not, we respectfully ask you do not post or comment here. A future community will be established to allow for racial discussions with a mixed userbase. However, remember, comments here must still respect Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines.

  3. Irony Racism is still racism. Racism is bad m'kay? We will treat irony racism and bad faith racist satire as racism. Will wield the ban hammer accordingly.

  4. No sectarianism: This is an identity channel not a channel for you all to complain about why XYZ isn't the "one true leftism". Take that to another place.

  5. Stupidpol is not allowed. Stupidpol is class reductionist. We are an identity community. Thinking like stupidpol ignores the struggles of the oppressed, their voices, and their need for unique support. Nothing says oppression more than someone saying that the identity you have is "not real" and that if you only thought like them you'd see what your "real" identity is. Mods reserve the right to ban users and content who promote stupidpol, stupidpol memes, and other class reductionist thinking.

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I don't look XYZ and/or sometimes I can pass as white so I don't know if I can post here. Can I?

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Remember, EM POC only!

This message is to my EM POC comrades: Angel loves all of you.

Especially as of late, I have truly been feeling like this community has worked wonders in keeping me stable when it comes to handling the massive jar of mayo that this site can be sometimes.

soviet-heart

How are you all?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

I just had a first date with this absolutely gorgeous girl and it went so damn well. Ended up making out really hard. Ugh. melt

I'm pretty damn proud of myself. I missed this feeling of a good first date. What a high.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago
  1. Forget how KKKolonized this site is
  2. Browse outside of c/em_poc
  3. See some cracKKKer shit that weirds you out
  4. Go back to em_poc to post something like this to preach to the choir about how you're fed up with this site's disgusting whiteness
  5. Take a break
  6. Repeat

Hexbear will never not be a demonstration as to why even """"based honKKKies"""" do not deserve your trust.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Had a woman in my therapy group start complaining about how difficult being brown in America is.

Her and I are the only two brown people in a group of fourteen people. I don't what she expected. Like, they aren't going to apologize and white people take accusations of racism personally , so they won't empathize either.

This is really basic stuff . I was shocked that a poc didn't get that. It's borderline white levels of ignorance

I wanted to get up and leave.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Interesting research findings

[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago

AFAIK immigrants are less likely to commit crimes because they are afraid of harsher consequences, especially if they're undocumented. It doesn't stop the pigs from harassing them more frequently, however.

Xenophobia is completely unfounded and whitey just wants to hurt people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Something about Amerikkkan settlers seeing themselves in immigrants really brings out a rare bit of humanity of the former...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want to join the Black community group at work but one of the future events is about black folks in the military and it turned me off. Maybe I should join anyway to bring the revolutionary energy that's needed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tovarshi, why not both? Timetable troubles?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I felt like a minority amongst the minorities 😭. Like, they felt like the fraternity/sorority Hilary banks type

[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Oh no, not the HBCU greeks

If there's anything my time in the workforce taught me it's that you can't trust anybody who still wears an Alpha Kappa or Alpha Phi pin years out from attendance of a Divine Nine; they'll pitch you under the first bus that profits them to go by

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, solidarity with yer loneliness, I feel ye cuddle

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Should I read Settlers or The Invention of The White Race first?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Settlers first, shorter and easier read imo

Not really a "wrong" order though

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

yall plz send me good energy.. just got a call for a prospective music teaching job i applied to a whileee ago out of state that is more than 3x the pay of my old one!! this could be what i need to get out of this place again and for good this time. they hit me with the "we'll hit you back in a couple of weeks" at the end and i h8 not knowing exactly when to expect a response (especially cuz i sounded hella awkward on the phone) but i'm using this as an opportunity to continue cultivating my practice of non-attachment. if it is it is, and if it isn't it isn't

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

(⁠ノ⁠◕⁠ヮ⁠◕⁠)⁠ノ⁠*⁠.⁠✧

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

Good LUCK ! You can do it > sending positive energy chickpea

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hello my friends soviet-heart

I'm eastern european who sadly ended up in the ukkk, so I'm posting here to say hello. I'm very aware that I don't really experience racism like a lot of my comrades here, so I won't take up too much space mouthing off, unless I've got something to share in the replies or need to scream about some xenophobic bullshit, hope that's cool.

Sending love to all my em poc comrades kris-love

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

yall are the EM in em poc, if you experience structural racism or your people have been pogromed/ ethnically cleansed and that shit still affects you this is a place for you. if your life experience is indistinguishable from the ethnic group at the top of the hierarchy in which you live this is not the space for you. also you must be mindful not to talk over poc!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Ummm,I honestly thought we weren't allowed here lmao

I'm kinda replying here because I am only surprised to see this

That's why I usually avoid this comm,btw if the anti-cracker-aktion rule applies to us too, please remove this comment

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

yall are the EM in em poc, if you experience structural racism or your people have been pogromed/ ethnically cleansed and that shit still affects you this is a place for you. if your life experience is indistinguishable from the ethnic group at the top of the hierarchy in which you live this is not the space for you.

also you must be mindful not to talk over poc!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It is the "ethnic minorities" comm. Eastern Europeans may not experience colorism and whatnot, but they are often excluded from whiteness.

Again, this just shows how arbitrary whiteness is. It's not about defining specifics. It's about excluding the other.

IMO Eastern Europeans probably fit the comm so long as they don't try and pull the ladder up behind them. But it is ultimately up to the mods and I'm half cracker so I could be out of line.

Also, are there any Roma/travelers here on Hexbear? I don't think I've seen them if there are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

But it is ultimately up to the mods and I'm half cracker so I could be out of line.

Great, then yer an ethnic minority: a Hapa!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

I also thought yall werent allowed here

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I'm getting the sidebar right, then I think it would be different if I was living in my own country, but I'm in england and english people really don't need much prompting to start acting like chuds. I definitely don't get shit for my looks (unless it's about me being trans) like a lot of people in this mega would, which is obv a huge privilege. But the moment I need to introduce myself with my name I can see the xenophobe gears turning in most ppl here >.> Finding a job sucks for the same reason

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly, I mostly lived in the Global South but I am also now living in the UK. I wouldn’t say I personally experienced the worst of the racism here either.

I’d say Eastern Europeans are definitely welcome here but I am not a mod.

Regardless, I hope the job hunt goes well for you stalin heart hands (if I am understanding you right). A family member of mine was struggling aswell but got offered a really good one a couple months back.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I honestly didn't think there'd be many eastern europeans who came to this comm if only for the sheer number of eastern europeans regardless of country that I've known who felt comfortable with such virulent anti-Blackness that you'd think they were Tennessee natives; but it's also not rly my call to make either

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Eastern Europeans who experience structural racism/targeted white supremacist violence are allowed. they are the EM part of em poc . they still gotta be mindful of their privilege though, and not talk over poc, or they will be banned with prejudice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I’ll just respect whatever the mods decide. Can’t say I am an expert in Eastern European racialisation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

they are allowed!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Yeah this is very real. I've met many eastern europeans in the ukkk who are very quick to use their whiteness to figuratively climb on top of the brown people around them. Or if there's no systemic fuckery going on, they're still happy to just say slurs to feel superior or something. I actually reached a stage where I promised myself I'm only making friends with other immigrants who I can gossip about brits with from this point on, which worked out great for me tbh.

As for eastern europeans in their own countries... yea, it's so shit. Great replacement nationalism galore.

Personally I find this comm a breath of fresh air online; even when I take breaks from hexbear as a whole I still check this mega every few days

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks! Although I was talking more rhetorically, since I'm disabled and couldn't possibly work a job. Not that that will stop the DWP from trying... Glad your family member was able to find somewhere good!

In terms of racism, I'm glad you haven't encountered too much trouble, but I do find that quite surprising. Maybe it really depends on where in england you are as well.

When I was a kid I lived in a racial enclave of white brits in the countryside for a good few years, where I was 1 of maybe 3 ethnic minority people in the whole village. I have many unpleasant memories from that time, including a dude I didn't know who asked for my name, and then started following me home because he was 100% sure that I was making it up for the sole purpose of fucking with him. Similarly, I know someone from SEA who went to uni in a beach town in the south, and they were assaulted on the street at one point by a stranger, amongst a slew of other perhaps less intense hate crimes (intense enough to fuck up their mental health tho). My partner has also been ejected from a company they worked at after standing up to a white woman who was harassing them. Not to mention the terf island of it all... Not a big fan of this place overall, always thinking of escape plans.

Edit: & assuming you're the same person as hexbear's Neptium, it's nice to see you back! I always appreciated your SEA headlines posts in the news mega

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

In terms of racism, I’m glad you haven’t encountered too much trouble, but I do find that quite surprising. Maybe it really depends on where in england you are as well.

I am just saying personally, it could’ve been worse. Hell, some of my friends and family had slurs shouted at and overall disgusting and nasty behaviour like you mentioned.

And to add on to it, my disability basically makes me a recluse so can’t really be a victim if I am not outside but generally the areas I am in (treading carefully here so I do not dox myself) I see more non-white people than white people. At most it is a 50/50.

Edit: & assuming you’re the same person as hexbear’s Neptium

Yup same person and thank you! I took a break from that as I am bit busy at the moment. I may continue again later but I’ll need to find a more efficient way at compiling news.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

I am just saying personally, it could’ve been worse. Hell, some of my friends and family had slurs shouted at and overall disgusting and nasty behaviour like you mentioned.

Riight I gotcha. Yeah I definitely haven't seen the worst of it, but feel very aware of it because lots of people around me deal with it way worse, so I relate somewhat.

50/50 sounds pretty good for britain tbf! Glad you're avoiding the worst of it I suppose, but I know how hard it can be to be isolated as a disabled person, solidarity with you there. Thankfully I've managed to escape that village a while back now and much happier where I am right now.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One thing I didn’t really notice until I read a random blog about translating and subtitling Korean dramas in English and my native language is that our naming conventions are way different than in English.

This happens with other languages of course but didn’t really realise it for the one I actually speak.

For example, the infamous example is gender neutral pronouns and no grammatical gender. Maybe even having no last names and only personal names + patronymic names. Some do have family names but depends on familial origin (often arab ancestry).

But the one I didn’t realise is how referring to yourself by your first name (ie. Referring to yourself in third person in English) is very normal and even encouraged because traditionally people have multiple names and people often only go by one of the names they are given.

And if not by first name, you either refer to yourself by your title, or your position within the family. Ie. Your dad will say “Dad thinks you should xyz” instead of “I think you should xyz”•

It sounds absolutely awkward in English but it feels very normal in my native language.

We also have names for each sibling (ie. Eldest sibling will be called “Along”, you either prefix “kak” or “abang” (“sister” or “brother”) and remove the initial a. In my family we use the gender neutral name. There’s a unique name for up to the 5-8th sibling, in which case it can repeat for more and another alternative prefix is used, but not everyone follows it.

Nicknames are also a big thing. Family can either call you by a nickname which is usually some form of your personal name, or by the “sibling name”. Sometimes sibling name + nickname for clarification. Other people outside family can use your nickname aswell.

Typing this all out also made me realise it’s really hard to explain and understand unless you actually speak a language that has that same level of complexity.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Ooh, lemme compare!

For example, the infamous example is gender neutral pronouns and no grammatical gender. Maybe even having no last names and only personal names + patronymic names. Some do have family names but depends on familial origin (often arab ancestry).

Me too with the gender neutral pronouns, and no grammatical gender (still conjugation tho), though we had surnames even before colonization, and replace Arab influence with Spanish, and the fact our names are more Europenized... (Eg. Juan Del Reyes)

We also have names for each sibling (ie. Eldest sibling will be called “Along”, you either prefix “kak” or “abang” (“sister” or “brother”) and remove the initial a.

For me, kuya at ate (eldest brother and eldest sister)

Nicknames are also a big thing. Family can either call you by a nickname which is usually some form of your personal name, or by the “sibling name”. Sometimes sibling name + nickname for clarification. Other people outside family can use your nickname aswell.

You know, I have a tita (auntie) Daisy and a tita King, who is an actual aunt.

Unconsciously, when I was a child, I call one of my siblings Yanang, as an example of such sibling name...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right one thing I forgot to mention is that the “sibling name” applies for your uncles and aunts too but with a different prefix.

So your dad or mum’s oldest brother would be called “paklong”.

Those that speak English would use Auntie and Uncle for “strangers” too. In Malay, there will be a distinction on age and gender, “pakcik” and “makcik” for those older/parents age, and just akak and abang for those similar to your age. (I guess similar to the uncle/brother and auntie/sister age distinction in some English dialects).

This does not even include other major naming cultures present here, especially Chinese.

I think that’s why over here government documents just ask for your full name without any distinction between family/last/middle names. And it’s also why my full name can get cut off when I am in other countries (it’s too long lol).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

Right one thing I forgot to mention is that the “sibling name” applies for your uncles and aunts too but with a different prefix.

So your dad or mum’s oldest brother would be called “paklong”.

Those that speak English would use Auntie and Uncle for “strangers” too. In Malay, there will be a distinction on age and gender, “pakcik” and “makcik” for those older/parents age, and just akak and abang for those similar to your age.

Dayum, that shit's quite complex... your country may have been externally colonized, but at least it wasn't significantly internally colonized to forget such naming complexity

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I recently found out my Tita doesn't actually have the name "Tita." This is a person I've known my entire life and I don't know her real name. It's like I've been going around saying "Grandma's name is Grandma."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I recently found out my Tita doesn't actually have the name "Tita."

i-cant two moods right now, laughter and pity.

Just to ask, which region of the Pilipinas do you hail from, on yer father's side? I'll guess Luzon, and Ilocano at that!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Yah Luzon and Manilla. I was talking to my siblings living in the motherland and was all "When you guys visit we should go to Tita's." My sister said "Oh, what's her name? I might have met her before." Me: "Tita? Her name is Tita...what else would it be?"

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