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How do I free my television?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I bet somebody's done it. There are people in the Linux world who dedicate themselves to getting it to run on anything - a TV, a toaster...

But it would probably be a lot easier to just run Linux on a Raspberry Pi or something and use the TV as a monitor.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 hours ago

Technically yes, you'd have to find an exploit for your TV that allows for installing your own OS.

It's not super feasible but it's technically possible.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Also cars. I want a custom, privacy respecting OS for an EV please

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is still possible to buy "dumb" TV's. Tons of businesses need them for display purposes (like at fast food restaurants and corporate expos, etc, etc), but you need to search for commercial displays. Like this one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

Bless you for providing a link; I can't tell you howany times I've seen this advice without any link or instructions on how to locate these

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's similar to console hacking. If there is no known exploit, the device is not yours. LG patched the exploit that made that possible for my smart TV and know I need to wait for another to be doscovered. Unfortunately the Smart TV hacking community is not that active.

https://github.com/RootMyTV/RootMyTV.github.io

https://xdaforums.com/t/getmein-one-time-rooting-jailbreaking-tool-for-webos-lg-tvs.3887904/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the Smart TV hacking community is not that active.

It is a bit more active than your links seem to indicate, but is not very well organized or easy to find.

Use https://cani.rootmy.tv/ to check recent status of rooting LG TVs models. Many slightly older, 2+ years old TVs are still rootable, due to this exploit from 2024: https://github.com/throwaway96/dejavuln-autoroot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Nice it seems that DejaVuln will work! Thanks :)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Nvidia shields with an alternate home screen have been a good solution for me? TV isn't connected to the network directly, just to the shield.

I've got RetroArch, Plex, Spotify on each of them - that sort of stuff.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

bingo. never put the tv on the network, just budget for adding something else. tvs have been known to update after a year and start injecting ads outside return policy LOL. fucking scam's man. my shield fucks up, it gets flashed. or traded out.

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[–] [email protected] 227 points 1 day ago (11 children)

It should be a thing because most (all?) "smart TVs" run some variety of Linux, which, as Free Software, is supposed to guarantee the device owner's right to modify the software running on the thing. However, in most (all?) cases, the practical ability to do that has been destroyed by subverting encryption functions against the owner in a process called Tivoization.

In other words:

  1. No, it isn't really a thing,
  2. It's wrong for it not to be a thing, and
  3. You should be pissed off about it.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Free Software Foundation explicitly forbade tivoization in version 3 of the GNU General Public License. However, although version 3 has been adopted by many software projects, the authors of the Linux kernel have notably declined to move from version 2 to version 3.

How come Linux doesn't use GPL v3?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Linux copyrights are owned by many different people, so it would be prohibitively difficult to ask every person to agree to a GPLv3 change. Even if you could, Linus Torvalds is not a fan of the v3 license.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Even if you could, Linus Torvalds is not a fan of the v3 license.

Why not?

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for teaching me a new concept to be angry about, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean, they did it with phones too. Android is just Linux. That was one of the main attractions, for me at least.

At first, many people and groups supplied their own phone OSes. There was a whole thriving community ecosystem. Then they started to make it really hard, locking bootloaders and including critical pieces of hardware that didn't or couldn't have open source drivers (look up WinModems for a very early example of this technique, it remains really effective) or otherwise required extremely convoluted methods to access and the phone might function marginally without some of these fully functional, but at least you could still install a custom ROM on it if you were stubborn enough.

But even that wouldn't last. Nowadays they've made it literally impossible to defeat the security on most phones, in the name of keeping hackers and criminals out, but really a big part of their motivation is blocking these pirate OSes that let you actually control the hardware and software in your phone, doing criminally nefarious things like stopping them from downloading ads (the horror!) and preventing them from funneling all your data and activities back to Big Brother (how rude!) and worst of all updating it with modern functionality after they've declared it "obsolete". The goal going forward is to sell you things that you don't and can't control, so they can shut them down or make them gradually more and more useless and make you buy new ones forever. They want you to have a subscription for everything including physical objects without realizing that you've been forced to subscribe to their regularly-scheduled-disposable-device-replacement-plan for no actual reason.

They're coming for computers too, or at least they'll try. They want control of everything we interact with. For profit, mostly, but I wouldn't rule out other motives. It's a powerful thing when you have control of everything people see and do.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

Woah woah woah, slow down partner, you're not done yet.

  1. you should absolutely make as much headway on this project as you can, then share the results so we can all benefit.
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