chapotraphouse
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To the aliens in the ocean, I have one thing to say to you
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Tell the aliens in the ocean that Terror from the Deep is my favorite installment of the xcom franchise!!!
Ok so hear me out on this. Do i think what im about to say is the case? Probably not. But BIG IF!! there are Aliens and all the shit theyve been saying about them is true i only see a single scenario that makes any sense.
Wild speculation based on the assumption Aliens are real and in UFOs
The Aliens came here to uplift our species and help us get on the right track, kinda like a interstellar humanitarian mission thing and reached out to our governments to let them know why they were here. Then the US government basically said if they interfere in the US capitalist domination of the world that the US would start nuking cities. Basically holding the worlds population hostage in order to maintain their empire. Its the only reason i can think of for why other nations opposed to the US wouldnt just spill the beans, and why Aliens would be here flying around checking shit out and getting spotted all the time.
If super advanced Aliens wanted to be sneaky we wouldn't see them. So clearly if all the UFOs people see are Aliens they dont give a shit. And they arent doing much of anything. If it is Aliens in this scenario what theyre going would make sense tho cuz they are taking their time examining US military capabilities to make 100% sure they can stop all the nukes before they take action. While also not caring if we see them cuz their whole plan was to come say hi in the first place.
You might think like well they're super advanced couldn't they easily disable all the nukes? Maybe. But even if that was the case if your civilization is millions of years old then taking a century or so to decide what to do, and carefully plan things out would make sense. Taking a "Wait and See" approach for the time being.
Also before you say this is unrealistic other than the Alien part this is basically just the Israeli "Samson Option" policy. If Israel would do it why wouldn't its daddy the US?
(Remember this is an idea predicated on the assumption of Aliens being here and flying around in UFOs this isnt me saying i think that is the case so pls dont try to debate that with me i dont care. I am happy to talk about issues with this that arent just about the Aliens part tho.)
The problem with this is that we have anti-nuclear defenses, so why wouldn't the aliens? If they like to go around uplifting species then they've probably dealt with dozens of "Americas" on other planets, I doubt they would feel a need to be so patient, especially when being patient could result in the death of the species they are trying to uplift.
I find that when people talk about Aliens they tend to think about them as this monolith. If the purpose of coming here was a humanitarian mission i doubt their military is involved. Something akin to the Red Cross would be organizing it. The Red Cross doesnt have a bunch of military technology. If a bunch of people with swords came at them theyd be in danger. Its not the same as the Marine Corps for example. Who have advanced weapons and body armor on while on missions and air support.
Its very likely they arent even allowed to bring high-tech weapons into this solar system the same way you wouldn't be allowed to bring an AK-47 onto North Sentinel Island.
So assuming that they have the tech they need with them is a bit of a stretch IMO. And who knows how long it would take for them to relay whats going on back to the government, request military support, and get that tech sent out here.
If there really are Aliens here its very likely some Humanitarian Org that is using out of date donated tech thats legally prohibited from having certain things for fear theyd accidentally give it to us. Im sure their military could easily disable every nuke on this planet, but is it so easy for their Red Cross? That im not so sure about.
As for if theyd be used to this sort of thing they may not be. Theres a good chance if this is a species thats more type 2 rather than type 3 and say they've explored a quarter of our galaxy that them being around to witness an intelligent species taking its first steps into space has only happened a couple times at most. Its a very small window of time and most more primitive species in the star systems they control probably arent near that window yet.
That is true, but at the same time, traveling interstellar distances (as far as we know) would take an absolutely massive amount of energy and resources, to the point that it might never be possible for private enterprises and is only ever done on an official scale by their government (or whatever organisation is an equivalent of one).
In turn, we could assume that they have some means of defending themselves from our weapons, just in case, it would be a huge waste of resources to head to a planet to uplift them and then get shot out of the sky and your mission ruined.
And even worse, any warlike species that does this would also probably attempt to reverse engineer their tech and now you've got a warlike, aggressive species with stolen warp drives or whatever, ready to make war on the rest of the galaxy.
Some kind of self-defense would be a relatively minor addition to their mission and would be an important emergency necessity. Even out of date tech from their perspective could be centuries or millennia ahead of ours.
This is literally identical to my thoughts lmao
Tho if I were to advise whoever is in charge of this whole "Earth operation" I'd suggest they cut the shit and Blitzkrieg our ass, cause our governments couldn't handle it
If i was to speculate on why theyd be taking so long its probably because theyve got some byzantine bureaucracy nightmare going on where theres like 3 different departments who are based thousands of lightyears apart who all have to come to a consensus on what to do. Even if they have FTL communications somehow it isnt necessarily instant either so they may be spending all this time going around getting approval from all the relevant groups lol. Thats not even taking into account if they have laws about like what technology is allowed to be brought into a solar system like ours. If you wanted to not accidentally give humans some crazy ass tech then the best way to do that is to just make a law like "Only tech that is a maximum of 300 years more advanced than the local species may be brought into the solar system" or something like that.
If thats the case they may need to seek approval just to bring more high tech shit in so they can use it to disable the nukes. It would also explain why the things crash sometimes. no AGI allowed in our solar system so the poor Aliens have to actually pilot these relics of ships themselves. From our perspective they may look super advanced but from their perspective its a horse and buggy lmao.
To the aliens in the ocean, I only have one thing to say to you:
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What if that's like one of the worst slurs in their language and they come and abduct you as revenge?
Communism right fuckin NOW! 
Granted. The alien society is still communist, and you get adopted as their pet
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Oh no. How terrible... anything but that.....
Seriously.
Well i'd like to discolse in a closed session closed session closed session closed session.
Just come out already or fuck off.