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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (32 children)

How are people going to be selected for deportation? This feels eerily like what Hitler started doing with Jews.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

They start with a convenient group (immigrants, legal or not), and will proceed from there. Ask your history teacher about what happened in Germany after 1933, just replace the Jews with PoCs.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The NAZIs made Germany a slave labor nation-state.

That is what is happening here.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Drive through rural America and see how many underpopulated small towns there are. Shuttered businesses for lack of customers. Abandoned buildings. These places need people.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The east coast is densely populated. California and large areas of the west coast is densely populated.

But Ohio to the Rockies? Uhhhh......there's corn. We got corn. Do you like corn?

Yeah. There's a reason nobody can name anything in Nebraska. Nobodys ever been there. Not even sure they have corn there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I’m from Iowa and have been through Nebraska (no one stops in Nebraska) and I’m here to report: yes, they do have corn there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The east coast has more big cities than those other places, but there are still. HUGE number of teeny-tiny dying towns all up and down the eastern seaboard.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It's kind of wild to me how many really small towns there are in the US. About 32% of towns in the U.S. have less than 500 residents.

For comparison, here in Brazil I lived most of my life in a town with ~35K residents and it was already considered a small rural town. Some of my family lives in a neighboring town with ~11K residents, and even in my hometown people joke about how small it is, and that there's basically nothing going on there. 1288 of towns in Brazil have less than 5K residents, or about 23.1%, and there are no towns with less than 500 residents. Meanwhile in the US 76% of towns have less than 5K residents.

Again, it's just kind of wild to me. I remember playing (reading?) the Echo VN and thinking "Man, a dying town with only 50 people? That doesn't sound realistic," but apparently that's way more common than I thought.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My slightly educated guess would be that's a consequence of America's race westward in the 1800's, only stopping long enough to annihilate the indigenous population and set up a rest stop for the next batch.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s more modern than that. I don’t have time to look for stats, but I believe there’s been general migration to cities for like half a century or more

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Of course, but I'm talking about why all these little towns existed in the first place. It's not like they were all bustling metropolises before everyone left. ;)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Don't worry. This isn't the only Trump plan that will tank the economy. I just wish the rest of us didn't have to suffer because of all those idiots not paying attention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Do the immigrants actually settle there?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but they don’t want those people. Now who are those people they don’t want? Brown people, black people, queer people, woke people, educated people, different people…

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 day ago (24 children)

We tried this before and it sucked then, too.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Damn that sucks :(

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, we definitely need less people in this country. I’m sure it’ll help fill all the job vacancies and increase productivity and GDP.

I will make sure to bring this up when any republicans complain that are so many vacancies because no one wants to work anymore.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

Lebensraum.

It doesn't need to be a real problem, for them to make it one.

The immigrant work force will still be there, they'll just be put in camps and forced to work for nothing, while white working class people are sold the idea of "claiming back" "their" land, while the capitalists take it all over in their name (and never share any of the profits or benefits, of course, with a new scapegoat as for why as they need it).

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump thinks that the best way to avoid the last of the NY state trial is to create chaos and violence until we cry uncle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Nah, that's finished no matter what. No one needs to cry uncle, and this chaos was always the plan.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (6 children)

This move actually makes zero fucking sense. Having people in our country who are willing to work less money than the average citizen labor costs are low. That basically means more money for him and his oligarch buddies.

He's already won the election. He doesn't have to keep posturing like this. And he's not going to be elected again, so either he (hopefully) has no third term, or he'll prevent the 2028 elections from being free and fair.

My prediction is that nothing will actually come of this and he's saying this to keep his approval rating high.

Either that or he's even more racist than he is greedy and self-centered

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He’s already won the election. He doesn’t have to keep posturing like this.

That was never his end goal, and you're naive to think otherwise.

As for the rest, you're missing a key step - to get them all "deported", first they need to be rounded up, and put in camps (we already past this point a while back), and then since they're already in camps, they might as well be put to work. For free (another point we've past). When they start dying off in big enough numbers for it to affect production, there will be another group marked for "deportation" and rounded up for their turn.

This isn't fascism's first fucking rodeo, and it isn't only now getting started, it has been in motion for a good while now.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

He's not going to deport what can easily be made into slave labor and he's not going to need a third term if he even makes it all the way through his second without croaking, being 25th'd out by his own people or some nice defenestration. The point is to make sure Republicans/Russia never again leave office, not that Trump doesn't.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Nothing cheaper than using the military, no siree. What's the going rate for toilet seats at the Pentagon these days?

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