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[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

The right to not be genocided... apparently negotiable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

As well as lack of affordable or even free healthcare, lack of affordable housing, lack of vacation time, lack of decent pay, lack of maternity and paternity time, lack of affordable healthy food.

It is really becoming lack of anything and everything. The only thing that has rights in this country are guns and vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This implies it's falling on its own.

There should be a mass of red hats trying to push it over.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

and at least two blue hats

literally sick to my stomach.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (14 children)

Call me radical if you want but, I don't think Subject A of our cause should be rights for a minority of our citizenry.

Those rights should be unspoken truths we uphold regardless.

The common man will walk by TRANS RIGHTS 4000 times before they walk by UNION STRIKE.

The left needs to go back to focusing on workers, unions, labor, taxes, fairness and sense. Trans rights are important, and topical, but I feel the sjw yelling pushes a lot of people away from what our side of politics is actually about.

There isn't a single person I work with that wouldn't toss a flier with 'trans rights' written on it in the trash the second it was handed to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

I think you've misinterpreted the picture. These are supposed to be domino bricks. "trans rights" isn't the first brick because it is the most important - it's the first brick because it's the first that's going to fall.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The entire point of the image is that protecting and engaging any and every marginalized community is a fundamental part of healthy democratic institutions. And part of the iterative process of improving and strengthening our democracy involves seeking out opportunities for creating egality. There is no singular perfect state where you just stop - you always need to be looking within for opportunities to make things better.

Don't think of it as just advocating for minority rights, think of it as advocating for human rights wherever that advocacy is needed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is that you work with shitty individuals

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

Yep. NC.

It is what it is. You don't turn a wrench without seeing a few confederate flags on a few Dodge rams.

and you don't turn their money away, either. The Benji's didn't have swastikas on them even if his fenders did.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

that’s the importance of countermessaging. harris and walz had it right for 0.0076ms with their “weird” direction, like “look how fucking weird jd vance is for wanting to do genital inspections on every kid in order to make life harder for like 40 kids nationwide, what a freak!?!” and even some conservatives were like “yeah that’s a little far we don’t need to be doing all that.” that was a really successful strategy that had great potential.

…and then they dropped that like a month before the election in favor of courting suburban conservatives. from “weird” to “follow the law.”

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We can walk and chew gum at the same time. And fuck the very concept of "sjw", that shit isn't helpful

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It sucks because I know a lot of people referred to as SJWs, myself among them sometimes, and my read is that what pisses people off about them is not exclusive to minorities or the left wing, but the label tends to just apply to people advocating for the oppressed, and the behavior often comes from pain and vulnerability.

A lot of marginalized people lack the space irl to be politically active in a meaningful way. This goes double if you're trans or closeted or showing up irl is dangerous in any way. Online, you have a platform and can speak your truth, but that's about it. Social media platforms are incentivized to put a bunch of chuds you don't agree with in front of you to keep you engaged, and so people end up angrier and angrier, stuck constantly responding to bigotry but never able to actually do much about it, or even hold a good faith conversation. Pet peeves become big sore spots because people keep poking at them and it feels like there's nothing that can be done to change how anyone feels. Small disagreements over language become big blowouts because it's probably the tenth time it's happened today and it might not feel like anyone's on your side.

Funny enough the person I know who fits this description the most is a right-wing incel, marginalized in some ways due to neurodivergence. He's prone to big conspiratorial blowouts at the mere mention of climate change or queer people because he sees it as necessary to "educate" people. I don't think most would call him an SJW yet his engagement with politics and the ways in which he pisses people off are exactly the same.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I see your point but when basic human rights of a minority group are threatened, there is a moral imperative to organize to protect them, regardless of their popularity. There’s really no way around it. I think a framing that includes trans rights as only one aspect of a larger struggle for human freedom and dignity is the best strategy. Because there will need to be some discussion of trans rights if fascists continue to attack them. The alternative is to abandon a part of our community to violent oppression, which to me is unthinkable.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

MSNBC agrees with you that the Democrats went too "woke"... while repubs dumped millions into trans panic ads. If "left" Democratic leaning media is willing to throw principles under the bus to capitulate on hand waving economic yabbering, then we need to stop associating them with leftist principles.

Again, repubs did all the sjw yapping about trans people, and other than the bare minimum the dems pretty much kept quiet while also not making moves on unions or anything the like. Shouldacouldawoulda, but they didn't. And trans people should not be brought to take the brunt of what lies ahead because of that.

I know its easy to say the dems should have done different, but DO NOT let rightwing narrative lead to you lapse in your principles, we're here because the Democrats couldnt stick to theirs regardless.

We're here now, so all you can do is protect your trans neighbors and friends. I, for one, certainly wouldn't want to be told my rights as an individual were focused on TOO MUCH by the only people willing to represent me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously, we got one line of support from Walz and Harris' offer to follow the law, which is a far cry from supporting trans rights when you consider the laws being passed in many states.

Democrats who were pressed on trans rights this election cycle consistently backed down and conceded and moved towards discriminatory Republican positions.

I wish Harris had won, I would feel much more comfortable with the future prospects of my rights the next 4 years. But anyone who views the Democratic party as truly supportive of trans rights, certainly in any kind of national sense, is sorely mistaken.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

But anyone who views the Democratic party as truly supportive of trans rights, certainly in any kind of national sense, is sorely mistaken.

It's ironic if we were to say this before the election, there would be a very different response. Now the ship is sinking so to speak, critique is more receptive.. just not when it counts.

For a split moment I figured the whole "weird" rhetoric would expand to actually describe how people are legitimately being discriminated again with legislation, but yeah just follow the laws.. even if they mean parental rights for rapists and fucking windows on school bathrooms. Never hoping for a political outcome again.

[–] Echolynx 6 points 6 hours ago

It was a distraction tactic and they fell for it brilliantly.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 12 hours ago (10 children)

“But Trump said he’d magically make eggs cheaper!!!!11!!”

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Reduced demand. Dead and deported people prefer plain toast for breakfast

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Maybe he was speaking about trans people all along.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I guess you gotta break a few eggs' civil rights before you can make a fascist omelet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

<insert "transition to greatness" tweet out of context here>

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 hours ago

Ah, yes. ✨Slavery.✨

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 12 hours ago

If you don't stand for the rights of others, there'll be nobody left to stand for your's - so get standing!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Bet you they try to repeal Loving v. Virginia too. They'll "leave it up to the states" I'm sure, so that them and their rich buddies can keep their partners. Looking at you, Mitch.

I am emptied of all faith in their humanity or good sense.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Clarence Thomas rulling his own marriage illegal? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago

That's definitely one way to get a divorce

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Privileged people like him will certainly expect there to be workaround and loopholes. He'd just get a marriage cert in a state that allows it. Depend on it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

In the abortion ruling, Thomas listed off a whole bunch of civil rights-related rulings he wanted to revisit. Obergefell (gay marriage) was among them. Loving, however, was conspicuously absent, and there's a pretty obvious reason why.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't doubt it. However if Trump's team sent it down the pipe, I doubt he'd fight much - even a principled man finds it difficult to stand up to their friends, and that he ain't.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 12 hours ago (13 children)

Why are all basic civil rights not enshrined in laws, but instead resting on brittle law precedents in the US?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Because it’s all imaginary and I can’t believe people seek comfort in a piece of paper and the concept of rule of law.

A strongman, such as potentially trump but it could be any authoritarian in any country - will just wipe his ass with the constitution and do whatever the fuck he wants. It’s not like the law is going to stop him. He’s a convicted felon and he’s still going to be president despite that. And the J6 case (the only one with any real merit, IMO) that they had four years to prosecute is now dropped.

Laws don’t matter. Laws don’t protect you. Laws exist to protect the in group and punish the out group.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 12 hours ago

Because our legislature is dysfunctional in its very structuring.

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