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Following a formal notice from the FNEF (https://fnef.fr/les-adherents/), Real-Debrid is strengthening its anti-piracy measures. As you already know, we actively comply with DMCA and are already blocking a certain number of infringing torrents. In the coming hours: - audiovisual files available on a number of cyberlockers listed on the USTR blacklist or listed in the European "CCounterfeit and Piracy Watch List" will all be blocked. - a filtering by file name will also be applied, in accordance with the request of the FNEF, this may unfortunately lead to false positives that we will process manually. - a blocking of all torrents hashes of private torrent trackers mentioned in cases at the Paris judicial court - a complete purge of files potentially cached on the previously mentioned criteria - the deactivation of the API endpoint /instantAvaibility - a blocking of counterfeit Kodi / Stremio applications to the extent that they are identifiable

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Been using traditional methods to get my isos and store them locally, and on arrs/Plex for well over a decade.

Honestly the debris stuff never ever interested me, unless the data is in your control locally the rug pull is always on the horizon.

I do wish we could make it easier for non-technical folk, not everyone is wrong in the head like I am to be happy enough building and maintaining a NAS and the software stack required.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately not everyone has access to cheap storage so for us a few bucks a month is more cost effective than having to upgrade expensive storage regularly. 😓

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Upgrading? Regularly? stares at 25x2TB ancient array

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Still more up front than a few dollars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

True. But you can save photos and videos under self-healing filesystem like zfs. Is far more cheaper than a year of multiple premium subscriptions (google, netflix, spotify). And it's not recurring monthly other than electricity bill..

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

For more storage space yes. We have 2x2TB HDDs in raid atm and a few years ago that cost more than $100 (although I forget the exact amount). I have no doubt they will last long long time (I have a 1TB HDD in my PC that is about 10 years old and still going strong). But we can't even store all our favourites let alone movies/shows we watch as one offs. So we would need to 'upgrade' what we have which we can't remotely afford because in this country even 2nd hand storage adds up to expensive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Real debrid helped me download torrents that had 0 seeds when I tried in any. More than once.

Sad to see them go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Also great for those files that can only be found in premium sites, even scribd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

My friend just hooks his laptop up to his TV, connects to his VPN, and plays popcorntime (streaming torrents). He used to use streaming sites, but those have been getting taken down left and right.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bummer, I renewed my subscription for 6 months just two days ago.

I guess this'll finally be an excuse for me to setup Jellyfin and the arr-stack. I really don't mind too much (honestly I'd be fine just downloading torrents manually for whatever I want to watch) but my roommates really appreciated how easy to use Stremio is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You should probably try to get your money back via chargeback. This service is basically useless at this point, so might as well get money back better spent on something else if you still can. Worst they do is ban you from the service, a service they have already made not worth it anymore.

CC: @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh, I won't die over 20$, it's due to something out of their control that anyone could have seen coming, and I've been quite the satisfied customer since I've been using Real-Debrid. I wouldn't judge anyone for doing a chargeback, but I personally don't really feel the urge to do so.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

That is true, $20 isn't much in this day and age. It's not something you're going to die over or be in trouble without. I would still do it mainly out of principle since I'd rather not help them along with one more payment like that. Of course I haven't ever signed up for them, and I obviously never intend to now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Don't you have to pay for arr services?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A VPN is the only bit you'd pay for, alongside the inevitable mass of HDDs to store everything on once you get addicted to just keeping everything forever in your own personal Netflix.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuckin hell don't I know it. Going on 2 HDDs and 1 SSD

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

20gb elements are on sale atm. Lowest price I’ve seen them. They are easy to shuck if you only want the drive. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VCXWPQG

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

No, they directly download the files via torrents on your pc

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

They're not services per se, but are a stack of software that you can kinda "clump" together for the lack of a better word.

For instance I started using qbittorrent client recently instead of Transmission that I was using before as my torrent client because I can't find a way for Transmission to not download malware, and you can also do the very same with the indexer clients such as Jackett or Prowlarr which then talk to other software such as Radarr/Sonarr via API keys and is usually where most get caught out.

Read the docs, get thoroughly confused, and probably do it in docker too as everyone says if your hardware is sufficient.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Don’t have to but get a better experience if pay for newsgroup access.

[–] icogniito 18 points 1 month ago

I’d recommend a move to torbox, trying it out now and honestly like it more than RD.

Thanks RD for helping me find a better service

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Glad I never subscribed to it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Me too, I kind of always saw this coming and it really pissed me off when elitist pirates would try and bully people into buying it. Now I can and will rub their faces in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean I'm just gonna go buy an identical service, so have fun with your face rubbing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I was mainly taking a jab at the original Kodi addons community which had a lot of very toxic and elitist people in it which would bully people for not wanting to buy, specifically, RealDebrid to use for addons which only work with RealDebrid. These people are very much screwed now because many of those addons were RealDebrid exclusive and are effectively broken because of it. They were warned about this many times before and they laughed at the people who warned them about this happening.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call anyone buying into a piracy service an elite pirate, they are the piracy equivalent of script kiddies.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just in time for Usenet Black Friday sales :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And what country are they located, pray tell?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're located all over the world, just find one that's close to you and enjoy :)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, I was planning on looking into RealDebrid over my week off in winter, but I guess that's done now, damn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Here are some alternatives to look into: https://slrpnk.net/post/15456722

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What is the USTR blacklist? how do we preserve this data before its lost?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It looks like in terms of torrent sites

  • 1337x
  • rutracker
  • the pirate bay
  • torrentgalaxy (replaced RARBG)
  • yts

Are all on the list. seems like torrentio is gonna be a big victim of this.

More info here

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apologies for being clueless but how does streamio/torrentio get affected by this?

[–] icogniito 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Completely fucked if you use realdebrid as endpoint.

They completely disabled their api endpoints, that means stremio can’t access the realdebrid servers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which unfortunately has been the preferred way of doing it for a while. Hopefully people will learn and stop relying on it so much.

[–] icogniito 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean you can just swap to another provider.

Personally I use a *arr setup and just used RD as download, I’ll just swap to a different provider

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That is true. You can switch to a new provider, and hopefully there are some that won't become unstable in the future.

Although in some cases of RealDebrid addiction/dependency like with Kodi addons which stupidly hard-code or otherwise only utilize RealDebrid they'll just end up broken and no longer functional. Thankfully most cases are flexible and don't cause that to happen, and also hopefully this event teaches addon devs to not be so dependent on a single service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

MediaFusion doesn't need the API, right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I am so glad I didn’t renew my subscription in September sheesh

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Fuck I just bought 6 months zzzz

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As I've said in other comments you can easily get your money back, probably would be worth it since it's not like RD will be of much use once they start pulling cached files.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Refund policy is if you used it at all they don't refund. So if you watched one stream that counts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I didn't say ask them for a refund. I said get your money back. A chargeback is more than fair in this case considering their service is already or about to become worthless. Yeah they'll probably ban the account but they don't have the leverage anymore to threaten you not to do that because yet again, the service is worthless at this point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Thankfully my subscription ends in a few weeks and didn't reup early.

Does anyone have any suggestions for Kodi? I've been using seren + rd for years, I got a month of all debrid since I can use it with seren, but it being based in France as well I'd rather switch.

I found POV which I can use with torbox. But I'm absolutely clueless as to what the popular, functional addons are nowadays.

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