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[–] [email protected] 366 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (19 children)

Fuck Elon. Fuck Tesla.

I was their target demographic and Elon made sure that I never even consider their trash. I went BMW instead.

[–] [email protected] 142 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

This is why Elonia is asking trump to impose tariffs on Canada and Mexico. Other car manufacturers started biting into Tesla market share this year.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Poor Queen Elonia.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

BMW lobbies against non-car based infrastructure and car industry regulation here in Germany. Biggest shareholder is the Quandt family, who are descendant from literal Nazis, and now use part of their billions to fund the conservatives (at least they aren't giving it to the far-right. Yet.)

So yeah, fuck Elon, but fuck BMW too.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah fine me a car company that's not like that. Living in the US it's a necessity to have a car so just gonna nix that argument. I bought a Toyota to get ultimate reliability (yes Honda is basically equal) but I'm sure they both have done equally terrible shit. And when I'm not in grad school I want to go back to a BMW because they are great cars to drive. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism so just try to enjoy your life where you can.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

On the one hand, sure. On the other hand, if you're saying you bought from brand A, not B, specifically because the big boss of B is a shithead, I feel like it's valid to point out the ways the big boss of A is shit too.

Since everyone is shit, I dunno, buy used, I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

never owned a BMW, or a Tesla for that matter, but I've heard they're just as bad when it comes to being money hungry

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

There is no such thing as a benevolent corporation. Don't feed the fascists. Don't give your money to Elon.

EDIT: Autocorrect derp

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

A friend bought a new BMW. Everything is controlled with an app. There's also an interface in the car itself, obviously, but the app has more functions.

Things like seat heating, air conditioner, enhanced cruise control and all the fancy things are only available if you subscribe to one of the three offerings.

I just glanced over the app, so i don't remember the names, but it went like the usual: basic, premium, platinum.

Prices were in the range of 200, 400, 700 euros a fucking month.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah choosing BMW is a strange choice against something like Tesla when they are doing the same sort of thing. I won’t criticize the “I’m rich so I bought an expensive car” thing, that can happen elsewhere, but the idea that BMW is the lesser of the evils isn’t really accurate.

I wish we were in a world where we could more easily avenge our terrible upbringing in this system moment after moment like Geralt, where if we’re to choose between the lesser of two evils, we’d rather not choose at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0i88t0Kacs

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

That BMW iDrive looks good but if it's all app and touchscreen based... Imma skip.

TBH though, all the damn nice EVs are touch screens or bubble crossovers.

Why the fuck do I want to drive a bubble. I want to drive an electric car. Take the Ford Mustang, put the electric parts in it, and don't turn it into a crossover. Take the Toyota 86, put electric parts in it. Do not turn it into a cross over.

Idk take any fucking car that looks like a fun car and goddamn it, put electric parts in it, don't add touchscreens, and don't stick your lips on the wand of soap and blow into the frame making it a goddamn bubble crossover.

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[–] [email protected] 204 points 3 weeks ago

Similar vibes than Reddit api pricing

Reddit got the idea from Elon's twitter API fees. This is Elon being consistent(ly terrible).

[–] [email protected] 159 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

API pricing is such a shitty obnoxious dogshit practice that is now of course becoming standard because of course it is. internet barely costs money come the fuck on make a quality product

It used to be a respected standard for developers and hosts to be somewhat open and friendly to 3rd party devs, because ultimately they're customers and they're helping recruit and retain customers, they should be treated with respect. just because it's innovative and disruptive to invent the machine gun doesn't mean it's good

[–] [email protected] 97 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The internet (ie bandwidth) is cheap, but running servers, providing documentation and tech support all costs a decent amount of money.

However, treating an API as a profit center is a joke. These are literally companies developing software that makes the experience of owning a Tesla better. Making things unaffordable for those companies is putting short term profits over long term success of your product

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

But 90k is nothing to Tesla, it's just a paywall to keep the third party devs put while being able to claim to be open

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

just because it’s innovative and disruptive to invent the machine gun doesn’t mean it’s good

That's a great Maxim.

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

Something to note: Tesla has two vehicle APIs, the Fleet API for commercial accounts and the Owner API for individuals. This change currently only impacts the Fleet API.

If you are an individual owner who accesses your vehicle data from the Owner API (usually via a self hosted tool like TeslaMate), this does not affect you. Yet.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

stop buying tesla, stop supporting spacex, and stop buying starlink

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago

And stop using Xitter.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

SpaceX will be the only game in town once the new administration eviscerates nasa

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

^^ this. In America the only vote that really matters is the one you do with your wallet.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

But what launch provider should I use then?

Boeing? No, I don't think so.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Another reminder to developers to not bother with public APIs, just screen-scrape or reverse-engineer the official app private API.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Really the lesson is, don't run a business that 100% depends on another company.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This. It's a recipe for disaster. I think enough (tech-related) companies have shown now, that they first want to lock you in, and then if they got you, want to bleed you out...

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 weeks ago

Its Tesla; y'all should be dumping that shit anyway.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

So musk pulled a Reddit spez?

Not surprising as musk is a scammer who got incredibly lucky, always has been.

Fuck spez and fuck musk

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's only going to get worse year over year as we move towards a dystopian corporation ran future.

The U.S. leading the pack on testing how much a rich person can get away with while directly interfering with a d profiting from the government, which is funded by the people.

It's just another grift, but this time in the open, corporate sponsored politicians being elected as presidents is going to become the norm. The only thing it takes is money to influence an undereducated populace.

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[–] LiveLM 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm surprised devs didn't see the writing on the wall after Twitter all but murdered its API

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Reminds me of the Fall Out Boy song “Dead on Arrival”.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

When Twitter (and Reddit) pulled this off, I was just mildly pissed. Can't do interesting things with my data, oh no.

...Image that, except it's an expensive luxury car you're no longer allowed to do interesting things with.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

One more reason I’m glad I bought a car with CarPlay / Android Auto support.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago

Hehehe, we all know how that's like. I'm sure this income will truly be used to improve their services and support robust and reliable API infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's no laws against profiteering?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Tesla is an American company, in Texas, at that.

It wouldn't matter if there were.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine trying to sell cars and then pulling some shit like this

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Penises should be loved.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

What’s the data? The article says the app was fleet management? So location and remote opening doors or something?

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