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TURKEY POWER (mander.xyz)
submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

if they claim a 15lb Turkey feeds 12, how am I supposed trust any of the other numbers?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or how 1 GW/(200 W/person) came up with a number that started with a 3 instead of a 5. Like 5 million people, not 30 million.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

But it only takes 3.5 hours per turkey and a day has 24 of them. So if some people get up at 3am it works out!

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Can we also talk about the way they chose to manipulate the perception of the data by their choice of states

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

LOL, it's a reverse population map. Works on the stupid because "lots of orange!"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

There are states with populations higher than 30 million. Like yea that's a lot of people, but the cherry picking of states is annoying

[–] janus2 51 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I thought this was going to be about how many turkeys you could cook directly using the reactor heat

my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Be about 3x that number. Reactors are about 33-40% efficient. So a 1000 MW electric plant is running at 3000 MW thermal. Would be relatively easy too. Just a gigantic steam heated oven. So 7.5 million turkeys, enough to feed 90 million people or about a quarter of the US.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I doubt an oven needs 2400W continuous to keep at temperature. Also a single large oven will be far more efficient than 7.5 million separate ovens.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Glad to know I'm not the only one!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Rookie Numbers. It only uses electrical power generated. Why not cook turkeys in heat destined for cooling towers ? Gotta push those numbers way up.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Or just toss all the turkeys into the reactor

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Restricted sous-vide basin

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Turkey control rods

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The fun part of this is this is true of any 1GW power source. We have been deploying solar+battery arrays in that range recently for much less money and much faster than nuclear.

Thanks "Office of nuclear energy" for pointing out how useful large scale solar+battery is too!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

How is this a meme?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

I really don't get this ackshually business about nuclear power, we're absolute idiots to not employ it more. Everywhere there's been a focus on nuclear power generation we're seeing reliable results over a long long timespan

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Lemmy keeps telling me nuclear power is stupid. I've been screaming for more going on 30-years now. 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The problem with nuclear is: business wise, it is a TOUGH sell to the public, even without the anti-nuclear lobby groups fighting with safety propaganda.

It takes a much higher capital spend to start up nuclear than any other type of plant, so you won't "break even" for 30 plus years, if ever.

It doesn't help when there are high profile sites that are being refurbished, whose costs are already phenomenaly high, and then the managing firm fucks it up (I'm looking at you Crystal River).

It makes it high risk, financially. And it's the public that ultimately ends up paying.

My hope is that SMR's become viable. They introduce a new factor though. If you get small, "cheaper" nuclear plants, then you will get more operators and you will get some that may run fast and loose. One fuck up can ruin it for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I can accept the argument that it's safe and effective but the public irrationally won't accept it. Seems to have been a pretty good sell on the other side of the curtain though

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd like to see this redone using energy instead of power. E.g is 2,400 watts during the initial heatup or when the oven reaches stable temperature? They're not taking into account the time change either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

2400W is typical maximum power for an oven. If you run that continuous you'll have very crispy (black) turkey

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Wow, didn't realize how anti-nuclear Lemmy is after looking at this comment thread.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Common on contrarian and alternative platform as this particular topic has been seeded by russia psyops against russian oil alternative.

This is why germany shut down all its reactors and went back to burning lignite coal when nordstream was blown up by a ln Ukrainian triggerman.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

IIRC Germany shut down their reactors because of Fukushima and the disaster there, not because of psyops.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If people didn't all turn their oven on at the same time but took more of a staggered approach this would supply a lot more people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it's already wrong even for realistic staggered dinners.

I think they are using an arbitrary GW-day of energy instead of power, so it can't even come close to making as much turkey as claimed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They're over by a factor of 6 which would add up to 21 hours, not 24. I don't know what they've done to get 2.5 million, it should be 417 thousand with those numbers.

Edit: Oh dear. They said each oven could completely cook 6 turkeys in a day so they rounded to that number. At least it no longer reads GW/day.
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Time zones probably help with that!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

The real question is how many nuclear reactors a turkey could cook.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

If you cook me a 15lb turkey in 3 1/2 hours that burnt dry shit is going in the trash.

  • Dude standing by a smoker with 10 lbs of pork ribs for the past 4 hours
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A typical turkey feeds 12 people? Doubt. Perhaps enough for 12 portions - but that isn’t the same as 12 people get fed off this one bird.

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