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I disavow the ignorance displayed in the statement that “Feminists always think women are better than men.” But felt important to share how well received such a message is received on this site.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Kind of a roundabout way to say that, but I guess the underlying message is people are equally terrible? That's not really the worst opinion I've seen.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The actual message is the "... And feminists are hypocrite liars about it" part you skipped over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

That is definitely what they said, but they seem to mislabel feminism in general. Since feminism isn't about superiority to men, then who they are referring to is not representative of feminism as a whole. I guess what I'm saying is that they are actually right that anyone that thinks that one group is superior to another is wrong. They are wrong about the term they used to describe someone like that though, which I don't label as the worst thing ever compared to actually thinking the former point. So not understanding the term feminism bad, but also their point directed at the right people isn't wrong.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

thanks for saying the truth lol. i happen to also believe that people are equally terrible but it’s annoying that people are intentionally ignoring the other half of the message.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Don't worry I too hit the comment button without reading sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (7 children)

people just suck tbh

humanity was a mistake

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the context was one singular example of this happening btw, its still a bad take tho

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

sample size of one goes crazy

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Lemmy isn't a monolith, and understanding that the fediverse has set itself up as an alternative to centralised platforms, I don't think we should be surprised when trolls who tend to get banned on those other platforms find their way here.

Of course we're going to see a lot of reactionary opinions here. These are the reactionaries that are too reactionary for reddit. They've learned to be less overt in their views because lemmy can excise a whole instance that's just reactionary.

I'd say right now they're trying to radicalise the normies. Vote manipulation is probably part of that strategy to make their views look more accepted than they are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

i’m not surprised just sad

[–] [email protected] 101 points 2 days ago (10 children)

People are blaming propaganda, I additionally blame the attention economy aka social media algorithms that favor attention. Young men are often shown videos of "crazy feminists" acting stupid, which gives this impression.

If you only see the dumbest people and takes from a movement, big surprise you won't understand it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

honestly i don’t think it’s too big a stretch to claim that the attention economy you describe is an intentional structure of conservative propagandists.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

he is so wrong that he got it right at the end... somehow

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I've seen so much casual misogyny upvoted here

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So calling out hypocrisy & misandry is misogyny now ? Ok

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago

Why did you bother with a response

[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 days ago (13 children)
[–] [email protected] 93 points 2 days ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd love for someone who down voted this to explain their position..

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree, but wouldn't hold my breath lol

Though I don't doubt at least a couple have already commented elsewhere on this thread, and are trying to hide their anti-feminism (aka misogyny) behind the thin veil of pretending it excludes them, and that we must refocus thousands of years of feminist struggle on to them and call it "egalitarianism" otherwise they have no reason to join our fight for equality (which they conveniently ignore means equality for everyone, which is why they need to make up excuses to reject it, because, going back to the meme I posted and why they downvote it - they don't want equality, they want to hold on to superiority at all costs, and their fragile egos don't like having that mirror held up to them).

(edit to add: and even if we give in and centre them and do call it egalitarianism, they won't actually want to fight with us to bring down the patriarchy, they'll just keep shifting the goalposts to make it more and more about freeing their poor souls from the imaginary oppression of feminism) .

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