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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So you'd rather use the platform run by treacherous robbers called PayPal ? So we can't use Stripe (ok fine) & we can't use PayPal, ok any suggestions ? Cuz I got one GNU-Taler

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why deposit your money with a central authority? The linked website points out that Taler adds instant confirmation to Bitcoin, but you can already get that using the Lightning Network - without custodial risk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GNU-Taler is not a central authority though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Your wallet stores digital coins that are blindly signed by an exchange. The Taler Exchange keeps funds matching all unspent digital cash in a settlement account. (Source)

When you add dollars or bitcoins or whatever to Taler, you're making a deposit.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good luck boycotting Stripe

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm trying to find out a list of companies using stripe and I think it would be easier to list ones not using it... What I'm getting is basically any time I spend money online, and sometimes in person, they get a cut

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah pretty much. As a payment intermediary they're actually really good. Top of class one could argue.

The executive's politics aside, trying to boycott them means boycotting all their users. Good luck with that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I have to pay a parking fine one through stripe. I would have happily boycott that.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just glanced at this quickly, and saw Shopify Payments, which is actually run on Stripe

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My sister in law was boycotting PayPal so she switched to Venmo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't venmo owned by PayPal for the past 10y?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Yes that was what made it ironic.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

so basically he didnt actually do anything boycott worthy. he just had a bunch of perpetually online lefties and righties throwing a tantrum on twitter

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Boycotting them is basically impossible anyway.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Dunno why you're getting down voted.

I visited Israel 10-odd years ago for work and I loved it. Beautiful country and people... if you ignore all the politics. As with the US.

What I hated while there was the demonisation of everything Palestinian. It's like a cult: if you don't agree, you're one of them. (Get fucked).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

It's the timing.

Israel is currently engaged in a genocide. Some guy talking about how much they love all the beautiful things about Germany in 1942 would get down voted to hell too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I have family in Israel and have been there several times. I liked it there. I liked how all the signs were trilingual and the food was excessively good. I don’t however approve of the Israeli government or how they’ve gone about this conflict.

Does this make me a bad person in other peoples eyes?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is no conflict, only genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Me paying my taxes has me certainly conflicted. Does that count?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Timing matters. I have family in Austria. I like a lot of things about Austria and I also don't approve of a lot of things the government does and did.

If someone were to have voiced that sentiment loudly in 1942, they'd probably be an asshole.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

So from your definition, me having family there and having some positive sentiment about some things I experienced there quantifies me as an asshole.

I find the prejudgment interesting. I used to only get this from right wingers for being Jewish but now I get it from both ends haha. Take care!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Your post completely ignore my first and main sentence.

It's the timing that makes you an asshole, not your sentiment.

Israel is currently engaging in genocide. I know it. The UN knows it. Dogs know it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good.. good . Fight about another country. Split apart. The imperfect are unclean. Give no quarter.

The left will never unify and the right will win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If any part of the left is OK with genocide the right is already winning and the only hope is to split with them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one is OK with genocide.

Reasonable people focus on banding together to accomplish goals. Do you think shaming someone for visiting family helps you stop the genocide? If every American stopped going to Israel, would that stop it? Please.

This is something the right gets correct every time. They hold their nose and tolerate some things they hate so they can make progress on their other goals. Then when those are done, they do it again and again. Eventually they have what they want.

They understand that real change is a long game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's completely disingenuous to refer to it as just "visiting family."

He was the one who decided to post a photo op in Tel Aviv. His previous posts make it clear that he knew he was doing so right next to an active genocide. According to the article, pro-Israelis interpreted it as an endorsement of Israeli policy.

Reasonable people still have boundaries. Reasonable people don't "hold their nose" at genocide. Reasonable people stop believing in empty promises when every Israeli atrocity is rewarded with praise and unwavering support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok. Then if you didn't plan to partner with Democrats and liberals to change the situation from the inside, what do you plan to do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In what way are the "Democrats and liberals" changing the situation from the inside?

Biden just approved another $680m arms package. That should be condemned, not celebrated. Acts that support this genocide should also be condemned, rather than celebrated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're not. Of course.

They might be if we got in there, helped out, and then stirred the pot. But right now we're outside shouting into the wind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What would "in" consist of?

Democrats had both houses and the Oval Office in 2021. The Democrats were as "in" as they can reasonably expect to get unless we want to go back to 2011 when the Democrats had all that and a supermajority.

What was stopping him from doing something now? Who forced him to send more arms to Israel?

And how is the Democrats ability to do the right thing inhibited in any way by people complaining about a CEO supporting genocide?

These arguments sound a lot like when my 10 year old tells me that they'll stop watching video games and do their homework as soon as I stop nagging them. That's nonsense. They do their homework when I take the laptop away and tell them they can't have it back until the homework is done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Ahhhh, I found the mistake. You're assuming when I say "we" I mean "Democrats". No no no.

We, left leaning folk, need to join the Democratic party, and once WE are in, we change the Democrats to something useful.

Third parties can't work. The Republicans are way too far off ideologically. So the only tool we have is Democrats. Let's use them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Just putting it out there, you are not. Your deeds and intentions are what define you. And there is no race or nationality that makes you inherently bad or good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah,I had this discussion in other subs but let's say that I was less successful

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago

Cool I'll boycott them by moving into a cave underground.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Image caption: "Dem Khazar milkers man.."

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Looks a bit insensitive but it's not even expressing support for Israel's war.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

He expressed support by making an avoidable visit. Just like I would express support to the wife beater in my neighborhood by having lunch with him.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Israel is a colonial project, any relationship fueling its economy is supporting the war. This includes touristic activities, investments, any kind of business.

The BDS movement worked against South Africa because it was totalizing and any chance to suffocate the Israeli colonial project must go through the same strategy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Who is disagreeing with this? I want to hear your arguments.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd say the only "reasonable" objection would instead be on the pervasiveness of the conclusion. You can't walk out your front door and remain consistent on that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Right on, second time noticing you here today. You're right again. When I replied the comment was at -2 and now it's +9. I think several people have alt accounts for vote manipulation. Good thing votes don't mean shit!

Edit- My only complaint with the app I use, Sync, is that it only shows total votes and not individual totals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I use voyager which lets me toggle what I see (I actually switched to individual recently) and the comment I assume you're talking about is at +19, -9 votes, and was about the kid who shot the home intruder

There are lots of down votes on both sides of that thread tho

(Also subtle voyager plug)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was the comment about any economic support of Israel fueling the war from this very thread.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As in the one you replied to? That one is +9, -0 So people either changed votes or there was weird federation things going on

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's the one.

Interesting info, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

No problem I assumed it was the other one because I was looking in their comment history for comments with downvotes

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

Nah they'll cower in other subthreads