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As I put a dish into the dishwasher I thought to myself, "🤔 I haven't cleaned the filter in a while." So I took it out and gave it a real good blast with piping hot water from the kitchen sink. I even scraped some of the gunk off with a dish brush to the point where I couldn't find a single mote of gunk upon careful examination.

Then I proceeded to refill the rinse aid (even though it wasn't empty) and--as usual--spilled that stuff all over the interior door in the process. Is it even possible to not spill the rinse aid when refilling it? 🤔

My journey didn't end there, however! I then proceeded to walk the entirety of my home searching for cups and plates that may have been left behind by my children, found several, and it was enough that it nearly filled the dishwasher racks; bottom and top.

The dishwasher has been started; the wait begins.

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[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

As a rule of thumb, it's good to clean that filter roughly every month. Since you're using rinse aid, I recommend just cleaning the filter every time you top that off. To minimize how much the filter catches, give dishes a little rinse before loading to at least knock off the bigger stuff.

There are a few things that most people don't know to do for optimal dishwasher effectiveness:

  • Don't use pods. Ideally use dry detergent, but liquid is good too. You have no control over pods.
  • Don't cram it full. Give everything space and have it all face down and/or toward the center where the jets of water will come from.
  • Don't put big shit in there that will block the spinning arms from spinning.
  • Put a little detergent on the detergent door for a little assistance in the rinse cycle.
  • You probably don't need to fill the detergent door (unless you're doing a heavy load of stubborn shit), and overdosing the detergent could be contributing to cloudiness on your dishes. Obviously, close the detergent lid. If not, you're throwing all of your detergent away in the initial rinse cycle.
  • Run hot water through your kitchen sink until it feels hot before you start your dishwasher. Your machine doesn't use much water, so it might just grab cold water from the pipes instead of hot water from your water heater if you don't do this. And everybody knows that hot water is better for cleaning most things.
  • The dishwasher takes like 3-4 goddamn hours to run, but it uses way less water and soap than if you handwashed that shit yourself, plus it can run while you work or sleep.
  • Most things can go in the dishwasher. The only stuff I don't run through there are knives, my cast iron cookware (including Dutch ovens because they're just cast iron coated in enamel), and things that explicitly say that they're not dishwasher safe.

Follow those simple steps and your dishwasher will work better and you'll feel like you reclaimed a bunch of time compared to handwashing or rerunning the dishwasher.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I have never seen a dishwasher that doesn't heat its own water, and I have seen many. Is that a thing?

They have an element for the dry cycle and often want water hotter than they will get from the tap so the ones I've seen heat their own water. Running the hot tap first wouldn't help in that case.

[–] DaBPunkt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They exist (my godmother had one) but it is really a niche.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does it have a dry cycle still? If you are putting in an element you might as well heat the water with it.

[–] DaBPunkt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry, no idea 🙂

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don’t think that changes anything. You still want to start from hot water so it has less work to do heating it.

Then again, my water heater is in the basement right under the kitchen so water gets hot fast, and I don’t bother

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My dishwasher (and every dishwasher I've had or seen) is not even connected to the hot water.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What part of the world are you from? In the US, every dishwasher I’ve seen is connected to hot. If I google it, almost all results say it’s connected to hot, with a couple exceptions mentioning cold water dishwashers. Also that technically it will work but at higher cost and reduced life expectancy

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 weeks ago

Very interesting! I'm in New Zealand, but the dishwashers are largely global brands like Miele, Bosch, Samsung, LG, etc.

There is no reason they couldn't be connected to the hot tap. It's normally connected next to the sink. I have just never seen it done!

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

The reason I always heard was that it's generally more cost effective to let your water heater supply hot water than to rely on the heating element in the washer. Most US dishwashers are plumbed to the hot water, so you're already paying to heat that water, may as well let it make it to the dishwasher instead of just cooling off in the pipes.

It also makes the initial rinse cycle that much more effective.

I doubt it adds up to appreciable cost savings, but it's just part of the routine at this point.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago

One of your bullet items is (slightly) wrong: If your dishwasher was designed to use pods then you should use pods. That's what the engineers engineered the thing to use and yes, it makes a difference.

Also, another tip: Manually spin the arms before starting the dishwasher. It'll immediately reveal if anything will block the arm from spinning 👍

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Meanwhile

[looks up at dishwasher from phone]

"It has a filter?"

[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

The generation that raised you will say "yeah, duh, it's common sense" without a hint of introspection to realize that it was their job to teach you this kind of shit.

Between the Technology Connections channel on YouTube just being legitimately interesting and having just bought a house, I'm speedrunning a lot of information about DIY maintenance to mitigate the disasters. When it comes to knowing how your water heater works or where your main water valve is, better late than never. Routine stuff like cleaning your dishwasher filter and running the machine properly will have immediately recognizable effects that greatly benefit your life. And unlike other people who you've heard shit like that from, I'm not selling anything lol.

[–] DarkShaggy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

There's a filter in there.....?

[–] riskable@programming.dev 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh no. No no no no. My friend, you are in for a horrible, terrible, awful surprise. I am so sorry.

I recommend keeping potential witnesses a good distance away from the entire kitchen and possibly wear a respirator and thick, protective rubber gloves to shield yourself from the horror you are about to extract from the "clean machine".

No matter what happens don't give up! Maybe have a bucket handy in case you need to exfiltrate the contents of your stomach.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

I've got one of the Samsung ones that doesn't have a removable filter. Please advise.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe. Some dishwashers grind up the food either with a garbage disposal-like macerator or by swirling/smashing the bits against a grate. That kind may not have a filter at all.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They still have the filter because they use it to conserve water. If they just flushed the water with each cycle it'd be very wasteful.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Depends on the washer.

Mine doesn't have a filter, just a macerator. I still have to clean it once a month, filters are even worse. Dishwashers in general are nasty things.

And mine uses 4 gallons per full wash cycle.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I’m not sure how filters are worse:

  • I generally hold them under the faucet to get the chunks off
  • if it’s been a while, I might have to rotate under the faucet to get slime off
  • it’s rarely disgusting enough to finish disassembling for actual washing
[–] Today@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Home from work on a sick day. Guess I'll go check this out. If you do yours, report back.

[–] brap@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh the horrors you're about to discover

[–] Muun@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yea same boat. I've never cleaned that.... Shit

[–] sevan@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I rinse everything thoroughly before putting in in the dishwasher to avoid ever having to clean the filter. I check it a couple of times a year, just in case, and it seems to be working for me.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's recommended to not pre-rinse your dishes before putting them in the dishwasher.

[–] sevan@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's my understanding as well, but I don't see a good reason not to, so I do it anyway.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

If everything is working normally, that’s an unnecessary waste of water. Scrape the chunks into the trash and it it in the machine

[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is the best case for rinsing I've ever heard. There are definitely two schools of thought. We have septic so I figure a light rinse helps keep solids out.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Our dishwasher connects to our sink drain. So I know the gunk goes to the same place.

Just, if I rinse off the worst of it, then it doesn't go down the drain only after first tangoing with every other dish in there.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I am so fucking glad mine has a macerator and all I need to do is dump a cup or two of water down there to loosen any chunks and it gets the job done

[–] multicolorKnight@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

You can also pull off the spray arms and clean them out. I dug out a pebble and several little balls of plastic wrap from mine, I think it works noticeably better.

[–] Tregetour@lemdro.id 2 points 1 week ago

I don't use tablets. Powder is cheaper. You only need about 11g of detergent for lightly soiled loads. Tablets are typically 20g. To get a visual reference for the volume 11g of powder represents, I weighed it out in a cup then tipped the cup into a tablespoon.