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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

Children use smartphones way more than "PC" computers today.

[–] [email protected] 202 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Bigger distinction: Kids with computers vs. kids with “smart” devices.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I feel that is the difference we're seeing though. Younger kids who generally live on smart devices have lower tech literacy.

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[–] [email protected] 180 points 6 days ago (10 children)

She must have had a Mac. Only Windows teaches both the knowledge and the fury to convince children to switch to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 days ago (26 children)

Switching from apple is like breaking out of prison.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Coming from windows it’s a breath of fresh air

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I don't know. I think Mac gets a lot of hate simply because it's a Unix that was sold to the devil and comes with a satanic concierge service.

Like, I'm not saying that selling your soul to the devil is possible but if I had to pick a handful of people that on the whole I would say probably did I would pick Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Elon musk, Jeffrey bezos, Larry Page, Vladimir Putin, and probably every Hollywood social elite and musician that sells a platinum record, every Republican senator, congress person, and every president after Jimmy Carter, and every CEO whose company is worth more than 10 million dollars who didn't inherit the company from their parents.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I am probably the only person ever to grow up with a UNIX terminal server as my home computer. any crazy IT thing i do now pales in comparison to my dad, running ethernet cables through our heating ducts in a probable building code violation

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 6 days ago (12 children)

When I was 12 I installed Linux... and now I have autism. And I'm gay!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 days ago

That's like half the fediverse here

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago

We get it, you use Arch.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago (6 children)

So here's a teacher's insight:

Mac:PC:Chromebook Rich---Poor

There is a very strong correlation between the wealth of the kids on my module, and the device they have.

Mac users really struggle to understand the concept of local files without being shown. PC users, alas, snort too much SharePoint these days to be considered healthy - trying to save a word document locally these days is like climbing a mountain blindfolded. As for the Chromebook kids, they do their best with what they have, and given how little compatibility those devices have with the software I teach, I'm proud of them.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Autistic children will be discluded from the study for skewing results"

"Autism involves a significant deviation from expected behaviour"

They have played us for absolute fools.

(I know autism describes a real cluster of traits, but it is only socially constructed norms that define those traits as aberrant, I am not saying it isn't real)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Yeah, we create the rules that decide whether or not someone is autistic, and we decide what is viewed as "weird" (honestly, everyone is weird, if you were perfectly average in every way, you would actually, in a way, be weird)

[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Personally, I guess that you learn more the more issues you have. MacOS is a more closed down ecosystem compared to Windows, malware is less popular and as hardware comes usually bundled with the OS, you shouldn't encounter as many driver or hardware issues in general.

As a kid I had so much trouble with incompatible software, viruses, adware, drivers, broken hardware etc. And as I had noone to ask, it tought me a lot about the fundamentals of IT and how to research such issues myself.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Counterpoint, I grew up at a time when Mac's still couldn't do much outside of what apple specifically developed for them, so I learned a ton about emulation and virtual machines and such to play games or use Photoshop. I guess that supports your hypothesis, I can rock Unix command line stuff and containers like a pro, but hate figuring out drivers

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The weird thing is that the UNIX core of MacOS would lend itself really well to tinkering. It's a shame that Apple lobotomizes all the hardware they sell with locked down firmware...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

It's why I much prefer MacOS over Windows. The command line makes sense. The file and folder structure makes sense. The defaults can be a little bit weird but a little configuration can help me feel right at home.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ironically, I found macOS to be a lot more technical than Windows. It's how I got my start with Linux. At least changing the default browser changes the default browser. I'll be using macOS and Linux side by side.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I've been a dev for 7 years. I used a PC for the first 6 years and I switched to a mac the last year.

My experience with mac has been terrible. The file explorer is just horrible to navigate. It took me ages to find the way to go anywhere except the "favorite" folders. Compability with the remote linux-servers has been awful with broken keymappings and shortcuts. Using hardware from any other manifacturer is riddled with bugs. The machine is unable to adjust volume if the audio is passed through usb-c. And I routinely encounter bugs where I'm unable to interact with apps until I restart them. Everything which seemed to work by heuristics on a PC requires a lot of attention on my mac. I don't care if I get a floaty animation and bouncy icon if I minimize a window. I just want alt + tab to actually bring back the apps I select.

I am not getting a mac the next time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I feel the same way about any machine that isn't a Linux laptop with fully implemented hardware support. I can't stand macos or windows anymore.

In Apple's defense though, they have better accessibility than anyone else - hands down. That's about all they do right IMO.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

At risk of going off topic, I don’t like Twitter posts like this:

  • Both users ‘verified,’ essentially paying for more engagement, but with no actual “verification” like community mods tagging users.

  • In your face engagement metrics all over the posts, as if that’s all that matters. Not even a user “poll” like Lemmy/Reddit or Mastadon/Facebook.

  • Hiding most replies other than the most algorithmically engaging ones.

  • Posted as a screenshot, unfortunately necessary as they essentially broke Nitter and it’s nigh unusable unless logged in.

I don’t like that the Twitter format is kinda the center of the social media universe, and seemingly staying that way now that we basically voted to back it with the US govt.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Hey! 🙋 I'm an autistic person (diagnosed at age 3). I grew up using Mac computers mostly, because my father preferred them for his work. Although I would encounter Windows a lot when I was at school as well. However, I didn't really know how to use Windows until I started seeing videos on YouTube about it (such as this one). This was when I was around 10. So I started experimenting with different editions of it (Windows 10, Windows 7, Windows XP, etc.) via a pirated copy of Parallels Desktop. I also found out about Linux, and toyed with Ubuntu with a bit via Parallels. I found it fun, and thus considered the idea of installing Linux properly onto my Macbook. Unfortunately, the trackpad support wasn't there. So for my 11th birthday, I asked for a "Windows laptop", and immediately after getting it, I set up some dual-boot with Windows 10 and some fork of Ubuntu called "Pinguy OS". (I spent way too much time looking at DistroWatch.) Then, I distro-hopped for a bit until I finally settled on Void Linux when I was 13. I'm now 18 and am running Void full-time on my current laptop, it doesn't even have a Windows partition. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yooo, another autistic geek 2006er!

I was diagnosed at age 4 and i started with Flash games on a Windows 7 family desktop. The first PC i could keep in my bedroom was an old netbook with XP and Lubuntu gifted to me by my mom(i only used the linux part tho). Then, later, another XP-era laptop with Linux Mint, before the current win10 laptop i have today(used it with Windows so far cuz i'm lazy and i used to need windows software but i plan to Linuxize this as soon as win10 is discontinued)

When i take the jump i'm prolly gonna settle for KDE Neon or any other Debian-based that can run KDE and then try to theme it to get something as close to Frutiger Aero as possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ayy! 🤝

I'm also thinking of trying KDE the next time I install Linux. I've been using GNOME for the vast majority of my time on Linux, though I've also dabbled with Xfce and Antergos' built-in OpenBox configuration for a short while.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Imagine paying for a blue tick on Xitter.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'm should bring that Ubuntu CD I had shipped to me as a kid to a therapist.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I'm genuinely curious; is her hypothesis that macOS users are less tech literate? Because I definitely know much more computer science people that use macOS than Windows (of course most use Linux, but Windows is on third place).

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (41 children)

I don't understand the correlation with technical people on Mac. Like I DONT GET IT 😭
how can you just be ok with not being able to do stuff you want? I tried to use a cracked iPhone before deciding just to buy a new android because I just bout exploded with the corporate shenanigans apple has.

Edit: It would appear that Mac is very different from IOS. Ive never tried it other than 15 minutes of fiddling with a friends once, nice to know it's not as locked down as IOS is.
Many thanks, but I hardly understand this conversation lol

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Macs have a decent terminal + CLI interface built in, and decent hardware. Also, for many years apple offered huge discounts for students through their university, so many CS students got a macbook for super cheap and just never stepped out of the ecosystem.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Literally the first definition says it's an out of use synonym for exclusion

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I've learned C++ when I was 10. Should I have myself checked?

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (4 children)

My first memory with a computer was playing (more like trying to play) Microsoft flight simulator 1.0 on a Macintosh when I was around 8-9. The thing that looks like that:

https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/2030596-microsoft-flight-simulator-macintosh-closeup-of-cessna.png

I only started using Linux when installed dual boot Ubuntu on the family computer around 14-15.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I don't even know which way the split would go. Many people i know studying computer science first year have a macbook, in what seems disproportionate. Maybe just general university student bias? also apple walled garden* lol *on the iPhone

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