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US confidence in judicial system dropped to record low this year, data shows (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Summary

Americans’ confidence in the US judicial system hit a record low of 35% in 2024, dropping 24 points since 2020, according to a Gallup poll.

This decline is among the steepest globally over similar periods.

Confidence fell sharply among Biden’s opponents, likely tied to Trump’s legal cases, while Biden supporters’ confidence dropped 18 points this year, reflecting dissatisfaction with court rulings favoring Trump.

Democrats’ trust in the Supreme Court plummeted after the 2022 Dobbs decision and further declined in 2024. Meanwhile, Republican trust rose to 71%.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Confidence fell sharply among Biden’s opponents, likely tied to Trump’s legal cases, while Biden supporters’ confidence dropped 18 points this year, reflecting dissatisfaction with court rulings favoring Trump.

This makes intuitive sense. It proved to both groups that the justice system is a sham, just for different reasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

35% is a record low? That is surprising

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago

No shit?

Maybe if the judicial systems would start prosecuting actual criminals like Trump, Musk, Bezos, Clintons, CEOs, corporations and a bunch of people in power incl our war criminal presidents instead of people acting out of desperation, the public would have confidence in it.

Remember, people are resorting to extremes and MAGA movements because our systems have failed them and they don’t see a way out apart from being mavericks.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 17 hours ago

Meanwhile the NYC Police will be opening an emergency phone line exclusive for CEOs who feel threatened or harassed.

That's definitely going to convince people in general that the Police "works for the community" and that they should "trust the Police".

[–] [email protected] 180 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A convicted felon rapist who incited an insurrection and illegally attempted to overturn an election will become our leader and the most influential person on the planet.

Yeah. Our judicial system is an international embarrassment.

And so are we as a society.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also, a Supreme Court justice who has taken millions in bribes ruled that bribery is legal. It's hard to have faith in the system when the nation's highest court is rotten to the core.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Laws only apply to poor people.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's rapidly becoming worse than that. Soon it will be:

Laws only apply to non-conservatives/non-Republicans.

It's the Nazi playbook. It will start by ignoring the law when it comes to smaller minority groups like LGBTQ people, immigrants, etc but it will expand to include anyone who isn't an adherent to the ruling party's ethos and ultimately anyone who doesn't bow their head/pay a bribe to the correct political authority.

Right now Republicans are mostly playing by the rules by passing laws that only punish their "out" groups/scapegoats but eventually that won't be good enough.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. If you read up on Nazi Germany, the speed at which they went from making laws restricting Jews from working certain jobs or the number allowed to attend universities to tossing them in ovens is pretty terrifying.

Of course, the people who voted for Donald Trump have never picked up a history book, so they wouldn't know. Nor would they care, because their ideology only allows them to consider their own positions, which they believe to be safe.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

As a child of the 80s ww2 was still relatively recent history.

Today it's almost been wiped from the collective memory.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This reminded me... My 13 year old stepson came over on the day he learned about the Holocaust in school (Alabama) and was delighted to tell us that as a pale, blonde and blue-eyed boy he would have been considered perfect by Nazi standards. Then proceeded to complain that it wasn't fair that he got detention for telling other kids in his class that history proved he was better than them because he would have had a great life when they went to concentration camps. 😢

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

We say and do stupid things as children.

But 13... At least he's only a stepchild. That boy is gonna have some times ahead of him.

I'm surprised he got detention in Alabama though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It can be hard to avoid repeating history even under the best circumstances. But if you have a weak education system, which varies GREATLY from state to state or county to county, you're basically doomed to repeat it. I've met some people that technically graduated high school, but shouldn't have made it out of 3rd grade. We're letting people waltz through the system and come out unbelievably under-educated. It's sad.

And that's why a rapist is about to be our president.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago

Yup.

Give it a few decades and we'll be no better than Russia.

If you had told someone 30 years ago where we'd be in 2024, they simply wouldn't believe you. That's how far America has fallen.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Stripping the fundamental right to control one's own body from half the population has dealt an even more personal blow to faith in the Courts. And we're seeing more deaths as it plays out in the red states, bringing it home to more families.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

The "party of freedom" took away a fundamental right from half our populace.

Make it make sense.

Women are now second class citizens in America.

I don't think that fact has sunk in for a lot of people yet. Including a lot of women.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our judicial system is an international embarrassment.

And the only other option would rather keep repeating everything is fine while the house burns down instead of working to fix it.

Biden really said "no one is above the law".

Like, anyone stupid enough to believe that is already voting R. For Dem voters it required too much cognitive dissonance. Either Biden was bald face lying, or he honestly believed it, which is even worse because it's obviously not true

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

senile old man who grew up when the system worked believes the system still works? say it isn't so.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

What?

Biden was a politician fighting school desegregation...

Do you have any idea what the US justice system was like in the 1940s?

It didn't work then, and it hasn't worked since. It's just an 82 year old can't be counted on to remember breakfast accurately, let alone a literal lifetime ago

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

Fucking wonder why

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A new Gallup poll, published on Tuesday, reveals that only 35% of Americans surveyed in 2024 expressed confidence in their country’s judicial system and courts – representing a decline of 24 percentage points since 2020, marking one of the largest national level drops for the courts measured globally by Gallup since 2006.

That's a very rapid loss of confidence. You could assume it's because people noticed the corruption, but then a lot of them just voted the most corrupt people back in to government. So there has to be some percentage in the poll of people who lost confidence for the wrong reasons (the courts are too woke and not hurting the people they should be hurting, etc.).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Astute observation. They could also falsely believe their candidates will fix the problems with the court system, which tracks with how they ignore everything else

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

And yet, it's even lower than that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Roe vs. Wade: “It’s $ettled law…”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They should change the name from Judicial System to just Kangaroo Court

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Nah they do it the other way around.

Like how they renamed the "War Department" the "Department of Defense"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

No shit?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Damn bro idk why