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Many of these polls are written in way to ellicit a biased response.
Others have already covered how this works, but I'll add to it anyway.
If you ask a question like "do you condemn violence against healthcare CEOs?" A lot of people are going to say yes, because they view themselves as people against violence and respond mostly to that first part.
If you ask "did brian thompson deserve to die for his crimes? Many of the same people will say yes to that too, because people have an innate desire for justice.
Polls do this all the time. It's part of social engineering and plays on the phenomenon that the Asch Conformity Experiments analyzed. Around 35% of people will change their opinions to fit everyone else's even if the answer or opinion is very obviously incorrect.
Don't let them take the narrative back.
"Do you condemn hummus?"
More than that I bet. Much more.
Room for improvement. Modest.
That's actually a lower number than expected
only?
That is shocking. Get your shit together, 59%!
It’s a wake up call, but it’s not really going to change anything. You want universal healthcare? We need a general strike. Shut everything down for a month and demand it.
Rather then a general strike the perfect time to get it would have been voting for it in November. Even if everything shut down tomorrow, cities and towns burned, and people starved for months the GOP would spit on you.
Which party advocated for universal healthcare in the 2024 election? Sure wasn't the Democrats.
If the DNC had a supermajority you can bet your ass we'd have single payer. We almost had it in 2010 but came up 1 vote short when an independent voted no alongside every single Republican.
Republicans are so anti-public-healthcare that many of them want to gut medicaid, medicare, and often say things like supporting "Pure Privatization" and "get the government out of healthcare".
This is a clear partisan issue: DNC want it and GOP don't want it.
Maybe the DNC of 20 years ago wanted it, but you're only fooling yourself if you think they want it now.
That low?
There's a teensy bit of data massaging to make the approval rating appear lower... in my opinion of course.
The respondents were asked to rank "acceptability of the killers actions" on a scale of 1 to 5.
Assumin'the average "young voter" views gunning strangers down as:
[1.very unfavorable]
(You would, if asked about murder, say it was bad As a rule. right? I would too. Ya know, unless it was justified.)
Looking at it that way, the same data looks a lot different suddenly.
33% young voters still think the killer is completely unjustified.
7% think there was some justification
19% are undecided if the CEO deserved to die for what he did
24% think the killer was mostly justified... But have reservations
17% believe he was 100% in the right
I got a little free with the interpretations but you get the idea, You could decide to frame the data this way too. there's a saying: statistics don't lie but statisticians do. Here's my 100% true alternate title using the data but presented with the story I want to tell:
67% of Young Voters at Least Partly Approve of Killers Actions
"Don't completely disapprove" might be better phrasing
Selective selection of selected data by billionaire controlled media still can't get below 41%
It's awesome how willfully they exclude or manipulate in attempt to soften the information.
Yeah that's the shocking point for me
I'm of two minds about it. Half the time, I want to build a statue of Luigi
The other half of the time, I'm feeling the Tolkien quote, "many that live deserve death, and many that die deserve life. Will you give it to them?"
In other words, at no point do I feel that Brian Robert Thompson didn't objectively deserve to die. He is objectively doing more good for the world as worm food than he did as a living man. My only question is on the ethics of anyone actually killing him. On one hand, no one should have a right to make that call on their own. On the other, it's not like he was ever going to face justice any other way.
I wonder if this dilemma is reflected in this poll. You can believe that killing the CEO was unacceptable, while also believing he absolutely deserved it.
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If this trend continues, by 2073 100% of youth will completely agree with it.
Why stop at 100%
It's shocking in the sense young people are the ones least effected by our shit Healthcare system since they tend to be the most healthy, and have less interaction with it.
You'd expect the middle aged and older with chronic illnesses would be the most supportive of Luigi, but they have Stockholm syndrome from living under this shitty system their whole life. This is also reinforced by the cable news they watch telling them how tragic it was that a man with a wife and kids was murdered.
Meanwhile, young people are just laughing at memes and tiktoks of how hot and based he is.
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It’s not shocking if you’ve had to deal with any sort of healthcare in this god forsaken shithole of a country.
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Shocked its so low
I'm genuinely shocked... Maybe they didn't want to go on record saying it because they were concerned about backlash.
People aren't exactly gonna tell a random stranger and probable Fed that they support murder even if it's really based
It's not illegal to say you believe Brian Robert Thompson deserved to die. Hell, you could, perfectly legally, file paperwork to hold a parade in Luigi's honor, right through the heart of DC. It's illegal to make death threats, but it's perfectly legal to express support for someone being killed.
With the incoming administration, I don't want to be on record as saying that.
And yet... You just went on record saying it on a federated platform.
Why not? Feds support murder, certainly. Heck, the Constitution supports murder: it establishes an Army.
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Americans have been trained to wish on the CEO the negative things that those CEOs have caused.
Game CEO cancels or ruins an anticipated game? Wish on to them that something they value gets canceled.
Car company CEO makes cars more expensive? Wish upon them financial trouble.
Social media CEO invades your privacy? Wish on them someone to track their plane wherever it flies.
But there exists a subset of companies where death is the outcome of a bad CEO, and the end consequence of encouraging an eye for an eye is what we just saw. Perhaps if a company can decide whether you live or die, the government should play some role in it. Then at least voters will at least have a stake in the governance.
The fact that politicians and executives consider this a “shock” is part of the problem.
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I doubt I’m "young" but I find it acceptable. I’m only shocked it doesn’t happen more. These people making insane amounts of money off the suffering of the working class have been getting away with too much for too long.
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The generation whose future was stolen by greedy, sociopathic billionaires doesn’t care if they get killed. Fetch my fainting couch!
Stolen? The assholes are giving it to them.
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