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this is satirical for anyone unfamiliar. It's a page from the right wing newspaper that the character Rorschach reads devotedly. It's got everything. Excessive labels. :liberty-weeping:, the works

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure the crying statue of liberty is less of a prediction and more of Stan Kelly lifting the joke straight from this panel. There's simply no way he isn't aware of Watchmen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i'm pretty sure it was just an actual cliche used by hack right wing political cartoonists (but i repeat myself)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That is probably true. I tried looking into it, but there's like only one interview that deals with the crying statue of liberty and Kelly frustratingly enough doesn't break character:

BNR: Where did you first get the idea for the crying Statue of Liberty who so often appears in your cartoons?

SK: I take issue with your question. Lady Liberty is a powerful symbol of our nation, and I take great care to use her sparingly. It’s only when a cartoon is dealing with issues crucial to the survival of the Republic that I usher her into my panel. To see her shed a single tear should be enough to reduce every honest, patriotic American to a puddle of distraught emotion. I think hard and long before I use a weapon like that on my readers.

Pretty funny answer though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

God damn that's a perfect answer. If this were a post on this website no one would bat an eye. Kelly is one of us

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

tag yourself i'm the communism bomb

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm the juvenile delinquent with a receding hairline

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not only did Zac Snyder not understand that Rorschach was meant as a satire of grimdark law and order takes on Batman like Year One, no, his Rorschach and his Batman are the exact same character.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Snyder's Watchmen lifts so much of its cinematography and script directly from Moore's book that they gave him a writer's credit. honestly its impressive how, despite that, Snyder managed to turn Rorschach into the main POV and sideline the actual main character Night Owl just through which scenes were given more screentime and how the editing framed the characters.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Still love how Rorschach was a none too subtle dig against Steve Ditko's Mr. A as well

Nearly the exact same outfit, nearly identical philosophy

But where Mr. A is a principled newspaper reporter who moonlights as a vigilante, Rorschach is a greasy weirdo who only reads the greasy right-wing tabloids

He's ugly, he doesn't bathe and moreover he's short and drives a psychologist to the brink with his depravity

Nobody should like Rorschach and yet, for some reason, he's the most popular character

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

everything you've said is correct but "I'M NOT TRAPPED IN HERE WITH YOU, YOU'RE TRAPPED IN HERE WITH ME" is a fantastic line

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Also it doesn’t help that he gets the most badass ending out of all the characters in the comic. He refuses to help cover up the mass murder of innocents and chooses to be executed rather than compromise his morals. Meanwhile Night Owl and Silk Spectre just pathetically accept defeat and retire and Dr. Manhattan tells Ozimandias all his plans are ultimately futile before fucking off into space forever. When I first read Watchmen as a teen I thought Rorschach was the only actual hero in it, mostly because of this scene.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Alan Moore is such a good writer that he managed to make a violent dumpster goblin likeable

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't say he's likeable, but he does have virtues. Which, depending on how you feel about Machiavelli and Cesare Borgia, is a good thing or a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Understandable maybe, but he didn't make the guy at all likeable. These people just decided they like bad traits.