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I like beer! - IPA's and similar atm, but i drink most beer. Looking in to start brewing myself (having a kit at home) I'm also looking in to growing my own hops.

Do you have any recommendations on what verity? Something that could be used for many different brews but have a distinct taste.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cascade is a hop that grows well throughout the US (assuming you live there) and can be used in a wide range of american focused styles (APA, American Stout etc) and tends to be fairly high in bound thiols which you can unlock by using a yeast strain that can free them to create extremely tropical, fruity IPAs. It also has a solid AA% making it a fairly good bittering hop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I started some Cashmere rhizomes this year. At my old house I had nugget which was kind of limited on character I found.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Have you checked what's even available to you? In practice, you will be limited by which hop rhizomes are even sold in the Swedish market.

Here in Germany, I could buy Cascade, Centennial, Comet, Ariana, Callista, Tango, Chinook, Polaris (all of these are probably interesting enough for IPAs and Pale Ales), all the typical German varieties, both landrace and older breeds, and some English ones as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What hops you should grow is more determined by your growing conditions than what you want to drink.

I live in NM, so I have two varieties of NeoMexicanus, plus a new drought tolerant variety called Vista.

I generally shoot for varieties that are hard to get new, so that's a good fit for me.

However, if your in Sweden I don't even know if you can grow hops outdoors. Your climate is about as opposite mine as we could get and still both be growing hops!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Welcome to the hobby!

For home-grown hops, I'd focus on something you'd want to use as an aroma addition or a dry-hop, e.g. Citra for citrus-forward beers. See what rhizomes are available for purchase and look up their flavor/aroma profiles and buy what looks enticing!

I would gently recommend against homegrown hops for bittering - it can be difficult to know how much bitterness a hop variety will impart if you don't know its precise alpha acid content - something that you'll get right on the label for hop pellets. Furthermore, the character of a homegrown hop - which is unique and special - will be best expressed when used as a flavor or aroma hop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I got into brewing because I wanted to try the random hop that had been growing in my parents yard for ages. Turned out ok! Likely not a noble variety but it suggests that basically any hop will "taste like hop".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Welcome! This is why I love homebrewing - there's so many paths to explore that you never get bored unless you really want to.

I've limited knowledge on hop growing, I seem to recall however that some hop varieties may be under patent, so might be difficult to source for growing purposes.

I myself am quite partial to Simcoe since it has a relatively high alpha acid content so you'd use less for bittering than for example Saaz. I also like the flavour of Simcoe when people use it for aroma and dry hopping. I might be mistaken but I think it may have gone out of patent protection.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Simcoe sounds really interesting (found descriptions mentioning oranges and pine)! Its available in a local brewing shop so i will absolutely try it! Can't find the seeds on the first google try - but if i like it I'm sure there is a way to get them (=

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've heard of people who've...acquired...Citra rhizomes. Totally legally, of course.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I live in Washington state in the us, and there is a lot of hop growing on the eastern side of the state. They offer a hop class for home brewers, and I took it several years ago. They said that high alpha acid hops like you’d use in IPAs require a specific climate (sunlight and heat) to get the bittering levels up and recommended us home brewers only go for the aroma hops when growing at home. I’ve grown, and continue to grow willamette, cascade, tettnang, and sterling. I’d have to look, but I’m pretty sure the willamette are the best producers for me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can start with saaz but it depends on your location.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, forgot! I'm in the southern Sweden! Saaz seems a little boring (= I see they call it noble but at the same time that must mean common (=

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There is lot of things that go in the growing hops - clima, soil, water conditions. For Sweden I would chose some not too bitter variety - Czech or German. But you have to look up what is available for you.