I feel like im going nuts.We are watching the destructon of a civillian population take place,cheered on by western goverments and media.I just feel sick
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Is it really cheered?
Most people only agree that the murders on civilians started by Hamas were absolutely horrible and unnecessary. As for what is coming after I don't think normal people are happy about either.
All western mainstream media and western governments are firmly supporting Israel. So, yes the west is actively endorsing genocide here.
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“But they are allowed to defend themselves” says the Western presidents.
This has nothing to do anymore with defending themselves. This is just another path to their genocide mission.
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Agree. I can acknowledge Hamas is fucked up, while also acknowledging Israel is using a bigger stick to simply be more fucked up in a more organized way now.
With an openly racist rhetoric too. Goverment officials are calling Palestinians "savages, animals, vermin" OPENLY, the head of state is posting videos about buildings getting bombed proudly.
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And go fucking where and how?? They all will just catch the train?? A boat?? A really big bus??
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The Israeli military said it would operate "significantly" in Gaza City in the coming days and civilians would only be able to return when another announcement was made.
Famously leaving and returning is very easy for Palestinians and they will have no reservations leaving with a potential of returning.
Yeah there's no way the city isn't just annexed into Israel.
Yeah they are not just going to do that. First they will flatten it and kill anyone who stayed in it THEN they will annex it.
They don't care. They already cut off the water. The Israeli government is hoping to see as many men, women and children dead in the deserts and plains of the region as possible.
Just leave bro! Trust us™
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How the fuck do you evacuate more than 1 million people , where the majority are women and children??
You know, through the border crossings that are all closed. They're just announcing this to claim that they gave people ample warning to leave when inevitably scores of Palestinians end up bombed.
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You can't. Isreal knows this. But by saying "We told them to evacuate" they've now provided themselves sufficient cover for everything that happens after. When civilians get slaughtered on mass they'll just keep repeating "They were told evacuate".
Not to mention the old, the sick and the disabled. On top of that the numerous injured from the bombings.
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Answer: You don't. Not in 24 hours and especially not when the people in charge don't want the civilians to leave either. This will be used by Israel as a thin justification that whatever they do next did not hit civilians because they asked them to evacuate (the 24h hours part of this ultimatum will be dropped under the table, never to be mentioned again).
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Over a million people out of a city in that region is impossible.
Over a million people are going where exactly? Are there camps where they can stay? Where there is water and food? Are their basic needs met? Or are they just expected to walk into the desert, never to return from the shadow realm?
Over a million people who are supposed to stay away while the Israeli military does what exactly? Fight against the Hamas on a fair battlefield? Because the Hamas is known for playing by the rules, yes? Because they also won’t just leave the city to strike at a later time, right? You understand how terrorists operate? You might have learned one thing or another in the last few decades?
Over a million people who can’t leave the city and will either get murdered by the Israeli military, murdered by Hamas or slaughtered in the crossfire. Israel can say „Told ya to leave the city“ and Hamas will get rock hard at the next generation of desperate people who will be easy to recruit.
But what do I know? You do you. Everyone else seems to know it better and shit just keeps getting worse. Every single decade, this shitfest escalates more and more. People die, politicians condemn, some really like the idea of Jew or Muslims dying. Everyone acts like they did a thing.
This is not the end. We will be here again in ten years. Same shit, only even worse than now.
The impossibility of evacuating all those people safely is the point, Israel wants the civilians to die.
This is the modern Trail of Tears, but since Israel has been predetermined to be the good guy it will be cheered and celebrated.
Meanwhile Hamas is telling people to stay and is actively stopping people from leaving. source
With how messy a evacuation this large and sudden tends to be, stopping it may save lives.
It depends on what Israel does after the time is up though, so that isn't for sure better or worse.
Fight against the Hamas on a fair battlefield?
They're going to bomb it from a very safe distance. And, if the last week is anything to go by, may 'accidentally' bomb places they've herded everyone into.
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Israel's wet dream, an excuse to displace half of all Palestinians from their land, bomb it all to the ground, if there are casualties; "Hey, you were warned."
Don't get me wrong. Fuck Hamas, but also fuck Israel, fuck neocolonialism, fuck propaganda/disinformation about baby beheadings and free Palestine!
Don't forget fuck religion. Let's not pretend like that's not a core issue.
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This scene from a game has some resemblance of the situation. Plus, israel is using white phosporus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7TaLjdXMc
"Why...?" "You brought this on yourself"
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This is barely even a "formality" before a massacre. Israel was looking for an excuse to go all out without any restraint and they got it. It's fucking tragic that these bastards are playing with civilians lives. Fuck both authorities.
Israel is a terrorist state.
So considering the disproportionate actions against innocent civilians we're seeing Israel do to annex some land, we're surely will see sanctions and economic blocks against them soon right? RIGHT?
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Same tactic by israel before. They flat out a building office of AlJazeera & Associated Press back in 2021 with a 1 hour warning. They really dont care if all civilian manage to evacuate or not
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Where are they supposed to go? Egypt closed their border too. Israel wants to kill them and then say "we warned you". The israel government and Hamas need to pay for every citizen that is hurt
That would be near impossible even if organized.
It literally just feels like a guise so that when humans rights groups or the international community raise questions about it they can be like, "But we warned them!!"
After 24 hours Israel will slaughter who is left and pretend like everyone who isn't Hamas had time to leave. This smells like a thin concession so Israel can pretend like they follow international laws for whatever comes next.
And then many of those who managed to flee end up dying too, since they have nowhere to go.
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Damn, Isreal really saw what happened in fallujah and went "Ooh write that down write that down"
I see someone has an Endlösung in mind. It’s hard to escape the impression that maybe it wasn’t intelligence community incompetence that invited this “perl habor”. And the plans for this do feel like they’ve been in some drawer for a while.
Nothing justifies Hamas but likewise, nothing justifies doing this to the many innocent, the children, the babies, the people just happened to be born in the wrong spot. The average age in Gaza is, iirc, below 18
This coming massacre brought to you by taxpayers like you! Thank you!
I mean, Gaza is larger than just Gaza city so it could be done eventually I guess but the timeline is laughable.
It's also one of the most densely populated places in earth. It's not like they have a million vacant buildings ready to go. You couldn't do this on a multi-year timeline.
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