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My 2.5 year old loves watching classic Pokemon. I'll be honest, so do I. But have you tried doing that? It's fucking insane.

  • The first half of S1 is on Netflix
  • The second half is on Amazon but you need an extra subscription to watch it.
  • The theird season (johto) is also Amazon.
  • The 4th is no where but Archive.org of all places... Which is called Johto Champions, so it really feels like the end of the season but it's another 52 episodes!

You would think pokemon.com would have all this (they have a lot, and it's all free) but they don't!

Seeing S4 (is that even right?) On Archive.org is really pushing me to want to build a Plex server. Having all this content in one place would be very nice.

I do IT work by day, and I have some older 2TB platter drives from a retired camera server laying around. What's the easiest way to get my foot in the door? Do I save up some $$ for a Synology box?

Love to get your input!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Would 100% go JellyFin vs Plex, also toss in some sonarr/radarr automation and organization. Everyone should have some kinda media streaming server, even if its just kept in house.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yo, I already have Plex set up. I can add Pokémon and invite you if you want as long as you don’t need 99.9% uptime, I’m just some dude :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

"I'm just some dude"

I relate to this so hard.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

find a paid plexshare. Cheaper than Netflix, has everything, no weekends wasted on being a devops

p.s. sorry I didn't look where I'm posting. I'ma open notselfhosted

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha this comment is keeping it real. That's a good point. I've never looked into a plexshare before. I'll have to look it up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There are also free ones, BUT they're a lot harder to get into, and a lot of times don't have as much content or aren't managed as well. They do exist if you're patient though, I managed to get into a pretty good one a while back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use a paid plexshare and it rules. Cost aside, it's so convenient to have everything on one place, especially for kids shows.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m using Jellyfin on a cheapo dell sff from shopgoodwill website. I hear you on the fragmented children’s content. The kids stuff was a big motivation to set it up.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a Pokemon fan I understand your pain. It's not like it's an obscure series, or from a small company. Why is it so hard to stream such a popular anime? I'm surprised The Pokemon Company hasn't rolled out their own streaming platform yet.

Before diving in to Plex I would highly recommend looking at Jellyfin first also. It's offers much the same features as Plex but is fully free and open source.

For my own media server I use an old HP Microserer G8 purchased second hand, and upgraded with a Xeon e3-1260L, also sourced cheaply used. It's small, easy to service and happily runs my Linux disro of choice. I know other people using various SFF PCs, or even repurposed old desktops. For best performance look for a CPU (or GPU) with hardware video encoding support. Otherwise, the rule of thumb for Plex used to be a CPU with at least 2000 Passmark score on cpubenchmark.net per concurrent 1080p stream.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's so funny because you can watch the show on the pokemon app but it has the same issue. The seasons are broken up weird, they have weird names. I think they have indigo league and orange islands and that's it. But it's not a "streaming service" by any stretch.

I'll look into jellyfin. I might just try and run it off my PC for now until I have a device I can chuck into my rack.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Building a NAS if your comfortable with it is the better option, better hardware/cost generally then pre-built synology (the benefit is really they are the ones responsible for managing the experience). Once you have the case/hardware, you can toss TrueNAS on it.

Personally, I have one machine setup as a NAS, one machine as a router running VyOS (virtualized on proxmox) with core services, then a few extra machines for things like jellyfin, etc.

I have most of the pokemon collection, you can find a lot of the seasons on ebay and rip them once you get the disks. There are several auto ripping scripts out there (personally made my own, pass through the dvd/blu-ray drive and auto detect media type).

I don't have to worry about a company just not providing video service anymore for some licensing issue or something

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I pretty much followed these guides. I've completely cut the cord and streaming services. I just go to my Overseer page and click what I want and it automatically sends it to sonarr, a few minutes later shows up on my plex.

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[–] retrolasered 7 points 1 year ago

Im pretty sure you could watch it all on 9anime.to

With a plex server youre still going to have to find and download it all no? I just set up an old sff mini PC to stream fmovies and 9anime, go pretty much everything id want to watch, isnt anything ive wanted that i havent been able to find yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used plex for like a decade. I loved it. It had all the features i would ever need. A year ago i tried out an open source media server called Jellyfin and was blown away. It was so easy i started digitizing my library again. I use makemkv to backup the bluerays (it handles multiple audio streams too), and handbrake to reencode them to a streaming format. If you encode the movies into a streaming format, there's mo need to re-encode when serving them, thereby saving a lot of provessing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

For me it’s because all these companies hate Linux for some reason. I have Amazon prime, Hulu, HBO max, and Apple TV, but they would only show sd if I’m on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yo, I already have Plex set up. I can add Pokémon and invite you if you want as long as you don’t need 99.9% uptime, I’m just some dude :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it that easy to add new content to plex? I’ve just started looking into hosting one myself, was wondering how easy it is to get new content.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The easiest would be a Synology Nas, but make sure it has transcoding capabilities otherwise its such a headache if the device you're playing the video on doesnt support the codec.

otherwise i'd just try and see for a 2nd hand thin client which will be way more powerful than a synology and sweet sweet intel quicksync.

Also look into Jellyfin instead of Plex :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Can Synology nas with transcoding handle 4k content? I've been using my old desktop for ages to handle Plex, but the CPU is too old to handle live transcoding of 4k

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

depends on which synology model. any intel cpu thats like 8000> generation has very good transcoding support.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

For me it’s because all these companies hate Linux for some reason. I have Amazon prime, Hulu, HBO max, and Apple TV, but they would only show sd if I’m on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While I understand Linux consumers are a tiny, tiny fraction of the market, it also admittedly feels a bit weird that Linux support can be so poor, considering that I bet every one of those is hosted on Linux and developed by a Linux-heavy set of developers. It's DRM bullshit that just makes things worse for legit users while not seeming to stop pirates anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

An easy way to set it up is find any old PC or Android device, hook up your hard drive to it in any way, download the Plex server application on your chosen platform (Linux, windows, whatever), and just run with it.

If you're IT you'll find it's relatively easy to set up and get going.

You can make it as simple or complex as possible: android server, kubernetes, do an arr-stack, add tautulli, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

100% agreed on the advice to just start going with it on your current setup. That's exactly how I started out with Plex and it worked really well.

I've since made upgrades, but it's all been incremental based on what has been helpful at the time. For instance, I got an Nvidia Shield Pro and started running Plex on that, which has been nice since I don't need to keep my desktop on all the time. I also use it for streaming games from my desktop to the TV, so it's not purely just for Plex.

After building up a lot of media, I got a bit concerned about having a single point of failure in my single HDD, so that's when I got a Synology NAS box and I have their RAID setup going for redundancy. I could also just run Plex from the NAS box and I've been considering it, but I've been really happy with how things are working right now, so I'm not messing with it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I use Jellyfin deployed with podman. It is pretty simple to get it installed and then drop movies into the library

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is where the beauty of sonarr comes in

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hot dog, I just looked it up. So you set up Sonarr and tell it I want "Pokemon" and it just pulls torrents for the show from feeds it knows?

Now the obvious question I have is, how do I avoid my ISP from freaking out? Is it just as simple as putting it behind say, NordVPN?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are using Docker to set it all up, then there is a Docker image for Transmission & OpenVPN called haugene/transmission-openvpn. It's what I've been using, if you're using something NordVPN then you tell it your login credentials and it works. I've been using it with PIA and had no issues.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I gave up on torrents a while ago and just focus on Usenet. It cost money (~$3/mo for a provider and another ~$2-3/mo for indexers) but it's encrypted and doesn't rely on P2P.

Also don't forget that DVDs exist if you want to go a more legal route.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For Pokemon specifically I can recommend pokeflix.tv. I think there are all seasons on there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Dooooo ittttt!

Edit: Forgot to add the useful comment.

Honestly if you're just starting out, straight up use your existing computer, plug that HDD in, load her up and just follow the instructions or a guide to set it up. Wait to see how much you use it before spending cash.

A recommendation however: Due to how Pokemon is and how Plex's two available metadata sources (TVDB and TMDB) categorize and lay the show out differently, make sure when you are getting the episodes in Plex that you have the TV show matched to TMDB (TheMovieDataBase), not TVDB (TheTVDataBase). Both have the show, but TVDB lumps a lot of the later seasons/series together, whereas TMDB will keep them separate as the correct seasons.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Does Plex have a plugin for Archive.org content?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I fully support this, I recently tried to watch all of Pokémon to get caught up after hearing they were making a new season (Pokémon new horizons)

the only place I found I could watch most of the seasons without paying like 5 subscription based services was archive.org because someone posted s1-s19, along with generations and origins on there (along with the every movie in order of when they were released up to "Volcanion and the mechanical marvel")

I wouldn't fuss about it if all of the seasons were on one subscription based service like Netflix, but I'm not paying multiple subscriptions for 1 show.

But, if you don't care about season 2-22 or just don't mind not watching them, Pokémon tv just released the final episodes for Season 24 so they have season 1, 23, and 24, plus the slim possibility that they will release season 25 (keep in mind they release an episode and a special set of episodes relating to a theme every 1-2 weeks, normally on Fridays)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just slap the drives into an old optiplex or something similar honestly. If you're just streaming it to 1-2 people at a time you won't need anything too powerful

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your Post is driving me to get the pokemon episodes :D

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’m using Jellyfin on a cheapo dell sff from shopgoodwill website. I hear you on the fragmented children’s content. The kids stuff was a big motivation to set it up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I also work in IT and I hate for old things to go to waste so a lot of my Plex server is 'salvaged' hard drives from desktops that were collecting dust after the changeover to thin clients.

It's mostly desktop hardware I run, the only thing that's remotely 'server grade' is the Dell Raid card that came out of a decommissioned server also from work.

Also, if you can then encode your files in MP4 for maximum compatibility across devices and less overhead. Plex is great

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also used plex for my kids for a while and for the longest time I simply put a couple HDDs into my personal PC and ran plex off my PC. It was more than adequate for just letting them watch whatever shows they wanted, no need to go crazy if you don't have the need for more!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is true... I have a feeling my PC is pretty power hungry. I'll see how hard it would be to get my PC to WoL. I could have it boot up on a schedule and then power off on a schedule.

I can always migrate off it later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most TVs can read from a usb drive directly; I used to load up all the the seasons of Pokémon onto a external hdd, usb plug it into the tv and just watch it directly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We have an old desktop that's usually turned on for one reason or another. The easiest thing for us was to make the D:\ drive visible on wifi, put all the media on the D:\ drive, and stick VLC on everyone's Roku/FireTV sticks. That way we didn't have to manually add new things to specific drives or worry about which TV's could watch which shows or accidentally run out of space on a thumb drive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How many drives do you have laying around? Synologys are nice (I have 2) but they’re a little pricey. You could go with one of the plus units and run Plex directly from there.

One of my coworkers got a TerraMaster NAS and installed Xpenology (basically the synology OS) on it. There hardware is a little cheaper.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’m using Jellyfin on a cheapo dell sff from shopgoodwill website. I hear you on the fragmented children’s content. The kids stuff was a big motivation to set it up.

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