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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only workers’ unions were so widespread and powerful as HOAs...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I want to talk to your manager... about workers' rights!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A large group of Karens is called an annoyance.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

I though it was agreed it was a complaint...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I was under the impression it was called a Privilege

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Nuisance is the legal term.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

HOAs just like unions and governments are as good as the people that involve themselves in them and the less people represented in the democracy the more power you have in it so if you're not happy then get involved.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience the people that “involve” themselves are raging clowns with superiority complexes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And they have control because they don't have opposition from people who aren't like them... Welcome to politics, it's the same thing at all levels. Get involved or shut up. You don't vote? Then you agree with whatever the people who do decided.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or just don't agree, and get a house that's not part of an HOA. With individual houses at least, you can realistically opt out of a system where the 51% of Karens accept management company bribes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Wrong. Most areas with an HOA require membership to purchase the home.

Oh, look at that, most good areas have HOAs.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly. You don't hear about good HOAs because the people who live in them have no reason to discuss it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

True in theory, and while I realize that this is purely anecdotal, in my experience as a contractor, HOAs are invariably a giant pain in the ass to deal with.

What you want as a contractor is a professional property management company that's used to dealing with construction contractors and is familiar with industry standards and basic reality.

Fortunately I don't work in residential construction anymore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh, I am happy... I have no HOA.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I kinda agree with you. In theory, they definitely are. But at the same time, in practice, the already bad reputation of HOAs seems to attract the worst kind of people. It's a political position and suffers just like any other political position. The kinds of people who'd be best at it often don't want to do it because it's toxic.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

While in USA Karens are relatively yong, in post-Soviet countries they are...

A group of them called Grannys Near Entrance or Grannyguards

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

The younger babushkas (60-70) run flat associations (HOAs for blocks of flats) in my country. Very strict about what you can put on your door, mailbox etc.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren't Karen's there babushkas

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are wiser Karens. And with dementia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if they see you pissing in a corner, the entire street knows before you zip your pants

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also they keep your bike from being stolen

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless you ever park it in an unapproved place. They hold grudges for very long.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What then - THEY steal it?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That reminds me, I used to think getting that haircut would make me look all cool and badass.

I really don't know what I was thinking.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (14 children)

We don't have them in Australia that I'm aware of, but they do sound atrocious. What happened to that land of the free?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My HOA only has rules for weeds and not blocking sidewalks with cars. I thought I was going to hate it, but honestly it keeps things nice. In my last neighborhood so many assholes would have boats and RVs literally parked on the sidewalk.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are typically city ordinances that cover blocking the sidewalk / abandoning vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unenforced City ordinances in my experience. That being said I've never had a HOA so I can't speak to their efficacy.

I'd imagine it's hand in hand with NIMBY's which can just fuck right the hell off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Wait till leadership changes hands.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Not blocking sidewalks with cars? It's just illegal here.

And weeds kinda too, but only Sosnovsky Hogweed is enforced.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They're basically just groups that are supposed to help prevent one person tanking everyone's property value by letting their home go to shit.

The problem is that typically the only people who get involved in them are retired busy bodies who want to assert what little power they have. Good ones too exist, though.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We do have them in the Czech Republic but only in blocks of flats, not neighborhoods.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

They’re basically stratas and body corporations in Australia, except the laws basically make them not as powerful as HOAs

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Turns out the rights of private property supersede the quaint concept of "freedom".

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The word "homeowner" contains the word "meow" in it; now you can't read "homeowner" in any other way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this gift

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

potentially NSFW (language)Shorted down to "Ho Ass"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I read somewhere else another suggestion for a name which was brilliant: Klanned Karenhood

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm not in any way familiar with HOA's but... in my mind they should be filled with at least a proprotion of bored boomers.

Karen's can be boomers, but can they be male?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Flashbacks to being 17-18 and working retail.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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