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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"On environmental issues, he is equally provocative, calling climate change “a socialist hoax”, and saying that a company should be able to pollute a river as it sees fit."

It's amazing how much damage can be done in a short amount of time when people like this get in charge. This isn't even getting into the fact that he wants to end investments in research, when investments in US research generate 2.6x in economic output. I'm guessing it's not too different in Argentina, but guys like this have no interest in facts.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This world has a real right-wing moron-asshole problem.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny how you can have 10 or more years of right wing government fuckin up the country, and next election people at best would elect some centrist, or if they feel very progressive someone center left.

But when you a have bad left wing government or even a mediocre one, people swing fuckin hard on the other direction and starts electing these turds.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Something else I've noticed in general around the world is: having a right-wing government gravely hurt them economically (while benefiting a chosen few) but only feeling the bulk of those effects during the term of the next government (be it center-left, left-wing, center-right or sometimes even another different right-wing gov) so they blame it on that government and go back to voting the original culprits during the third term.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, Macri was a neoliberal rat through and through.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

What do we want?

Stupid!

When do we want it?

Yes!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

Depressing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

All you have to do is hear the things he says and you'll know how crazy he is. Not just about his future plans as possible president but this his personal life as well.

He hired a medium to talk to his dead dog and those alive as well...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2023/09/29/javier-milei-telepathic-conversations-with-dogs-and-god-a-troubled-youth-and-the-issue-of-mental-health/?sh=464cc9d076ab

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

How to fail a nation: speed run edition

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

He looks like a Madame Tussaud's wax sculpture that's come to life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

!noahgetthebo ... mb

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Unfortunately people here do not understand Argentinian reality.

This guy is the only candidate who actually has a very detailed plan on how he can end Argentina’s fiscal deficit, which has been prevalent for over 100 years and has caused 20 of our 22 economic crises.

While I do not agree with everything he says, it is fucking refreshing to have someone come and argue with facts and plans instead of “I’m gonna solve all these problems, I’m the best at this and that, vote for me” (like Mr. Orange if you know that I mean).

It really seems he will win. And I sincerely hope so, not because I hate science or people, but because dollarazing the economy might just be what can save Argentina once and for all. That’s actually his main proposal and not even mentioned in the article.

It may not work, but a Peronist government hasn’t work for almost a century.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This guy is the only candidate who actually has a very detailed plan on how he can end Argentina’s fiscal deficit, which has been prevalent for over 100 years and has caused 20 of our 22 economic crises.

It seems extremely naive and dangerous to trust that the crazy anti-science right wing populist actually having a working plan for anything, much less ending a national deficit.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can have a very detailed, impractical plan.

For example, his plan for dollarization requires going into a lot of debt, when we're already drowning in it and no one wants to buy our bonds.

Of course, he says that he will regain investors's trust but that seems unlikely given our track record, how Milei is perceived internationally, and the fact that major investment banks have argued against dollarization.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I don't understand why they think dollarization is the silver bullet to solve all argentinean economic problems, like what country om earth dollarized their economy and are doing right?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny reading this and then the next comment is about him calling climate change a hoax

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Googles him and his plans. Looks like you're all set for another 100 years of fiscal deficit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Argentinians already do everything possible to get paid in dollars, so they might as well make it their official currency, assuming that doesn't have any negative consequences for the dollar overall. I know some people who live in Argentina and they said that if they got paid in pesos, their paycheck would be worthless within a few days. If they don't get paid in dollars then they have to pay fees to convert pesos to dollars for any money they're not going to immediately spend, and there's a very small limit on how much they can convert at a time. It sounds like a really fucked up financial situation over there. On top of all of that, they're facing a housing price crisis, just like the rest of the world.