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[–] [email protected] 231 points 10 months ago (3 children)

As a reminder, Brave was created by the guy who brought you JavaScript and was later fired from Mozilla for donating to hate groups. Brave also profits from multiple forms of fraud including NFTs and affiliate hijacking.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

If folk want to have a chromium-based browser made by a company, take a look at Vivaldi instead ~~(which will keep the old plugin architecture, so adblockers work)~~. It has a limited built-in blocker and extra features, but for now still runs uBlock.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Vivaldi is what I use, and it's absolutely the best Chromium browser I've ever tried.

That said, I'd switch to Firefox in a heartbeat if it could duplicate that sidebar. I use that thing all the time, and it's the only thing keeping me on Chromium.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

https://floorp.app

Firefox fork with features like the sidebar, vertical tabs, and more. It's a vivaldi-like gecko browser, give it a shot.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

it's also absolutely proprietary, so no, thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Just a reminder, one of the largest investors in Brave is a right-wing billionaire who runs a corporate espionage agency that contracts with the US Department of Defense to spy on people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Well, it's about Peter Thiel, who also founded the Palantir surveillance technology company. As a source for his involvement with Brave, Wikipedia cites this TechCrunch article, which mentions funding from Thiel's "Founders Fund".

I'd rather criticize Brave for other reasons though, like being led by Brendan Eich or supporting crypto.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

That's the best reason, but somebody already mentioned it and I didn't want to be redundant.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago

I love it when I talked shit about this browser and get acused of wearing a tin foil hat.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Just a reminder, Brave was using people's likenesses to solicit donations without their consent, and without necessarily give those people the donations.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Uh I'll stick to Firefox thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Update: Brave plans to address the issue in a future release. The VPN service will only be installed after a user purchases the VPN.

"Oh gee whiz did we do that?! Woopsie doodle! We'll fix it someday!"

Furthermore, no data is sent to Brave from the VPN services. End

This might be true but the bigger problem is I have exactly zero reason to believe anything Brave says about the things they're installing on people's machines without consent. If you're still using Brave at this point you're a fool.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (5 children)

They'll either evil or incompetent. Neither of which I want on my computer

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Stop using Brave, jfc. Please use Firefox, it's not the best, but it's better than this trash my goodness how many more scandals do people need to get rid of this crap?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Firefox is the best.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah the first time I tried Brave it the a bunch of ads for their services - and asking about providing info to their partners - at me constantly. I don't understand why people use that PoS

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Damn the negative stories just keep coming in regards to Brave. It’s a shame, I liked using their iOS app but I said fuck it awhile ago already. Firefox is my main b ^rowser^

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Like built-in crypto shenanigans weren't enough.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Vivaldi is a better brave. You get built in ad blocking and tracking prevention along with not having built in crypto

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And mouse gestures! Configurable tab stacking! Workspaces! Notes and pinned tabs! Tab tiling! Web apps in the sidebar! I love Vivaldi.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Remember when Opera had all of these things a literal decade+ ago? I remember.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Vivaldi is lead by an ex-Opera engineer.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (6 children)

The only chrome variant that doesn’t seem sketchy to install is chromium. The built from open source chromium. And that’s just because some sites barely function unless you’re using chrome’s rendering.

For everything else, Firefox.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

the brave experience was less than ideal for me, the brave search is unusable, i switched back to firefox, which i had moved to from chrome

also, related, but a side note, word to the wise, never ever ever use a free vpn ever, someones gotta foot the bill for the exit server bandwidth, and either they're keeping logs or they're not keeping logs, but you'll never know, and you won't know when they sell their settup to the next guy. always use a major vpn service who's audited and shown proof they're not keeping logs, they're in the business of secure and private vpn service. free vpns like what brave are offering are not in that business, and server, rack space, bandwidth costs actual money

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Very few people do. Better to just get Firefox.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

On android I prefer cromite. Dont know how it compares with ungoogled chromium on windows though. Firefox is the superior choice on desktop

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago
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