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What's a good, recent movie that could never have been made 20+ years ago? (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spider-Man: No Way Home. Mixing the different versions of the same character from different adaptations was a really cool, modern idea I don’t think could have been done without our Cinematic Universe/Superhero boom in recent years. I can’t think of an example of that from the past. There’s no James Bond team up movie or Hannibal Lecterverse or anything like that.

Unfortunately, I think it’s a really boring trick to see a second time, and now we’re going to have to see the same idea repeated in every superhero movie for years to come.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think they could have built up to it 20 years ago, it's just no one took the time to make movies, then establish the multiverse. Probably couldn't happen with James Bond because it's based too much in reality, but a fantasy franchise could have easily pulled off a multiverse movie.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Nolan movies like Inception, Interstellar and Tenet. Not at this scale and quality.

And most sci-fi stuff, really. 20 years ago, SW Prequels were basically the best we could get (at that scale). You couldn't made something that looks like Dune Dune back then.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Into/Across the spiderverse. I don’t think the technology or the appetite for the animation style existed 20 years ago

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Everything Everywhere All At Once couldn't be made 20 years ago for so many reasons. I don't even know if it would be received as well at the time, but I think it will because the movie is that good.

Also, Marvel stuff. Things they can do now, both from technical technical perspective, but also they have the whole universe to build on, they don't need to spend half of the movie explaining who is the guy in a red spandex is, and what was his relationship with his uncle, and immediately go to the main story. They also can experiment with formats, knowing that they don't need to hedge bets catching the widest audience possible

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Marvel movies are disqualified from this question, because OP asked about good movies, not disastrous barely watchable steaming piles of overwrought over hyped, over edited, crap with terrible sound mixing and too much CGI.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's, just, like, you know, your opinion, man.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dune

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dune was made years ago. Honestly it holds up pretty well except for the sand worms.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally, I like how shields are depicted in the 84 version. Big ol' boxes that looked goofy as shit actually conveyed to me how they were difficult to move in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

From what I remember it's not difficult to move in them, but only slow moving objects can penetrate them, so one needs to slow down before reaching the shield to be able to stab their opponent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Timothy Chalamet would have been 7 years old 20 years ago, thus they never could have made it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He could have played the little kid that kills the emperor.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

20 years really isn’t that long ago so this is harder than I expected.

I’d say Blade Runner 2049, though that’s probably pushing the line of ‘recent’.

Top Gun: Maverick really pushed a lot of limits of tech and access to aircraft that I don’t think could have been pulled 20 years ago.

Funny that both of those are sequels to even older movies.

Prey in Comanche I don’t think would have happened 20 years ago.

I’ve been in a movie rut lately though, I’m craving good hard sci-fi on the big screen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not a movie, but a TV series:

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This was how they debuted.

Season 1 episode 1: https://youtu.be/gbWfAAzNlg4

Also: Baked beans, finger rings https://youtu.be/chD6qQk7JcY

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it was made 16 years ago. Is it a stretch to think it could have been made 20 years ago?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Gah, i saw the question backwards.

As in what could not be made today.

But really im suprised it ever got made in a way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Tron legacy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

TÁR is maybe the most recent great movie, and it's absolutely a product of its time. You could tell a story about abusive, manipulative people in the past, but the specific way that her story spirals out of control over the course of the film (and the way that it reflects the culture around her) could only have been told recently. It's really gripping stuff.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t even think of a good recent movie, let alone a good movie that couldn’t have been made twenty years ago, when movies had to actually try.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should expand your movie viewing net then. There is a ton good movies, and I mean a ton. There is also a lot of boring shit, yes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah. It’s not my lack of seeing movies, it’s the lack of movies to see. Everything is a rehash, a cliche, or a big loud overblown cgi turd. I tried, honestly, to give a fuck about movies, but they’re making it kinda difficult.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Movies follow predictable formulas and trends, over time this becomes more true, not less true especially with fewer and fewer lines being written by humans every year. As a format, they’re too short to tell an in depth story and too long to tell a short punchy one. The design and market optimization priorities that shape movies tend to disincentivize originality. Even inception, which was all the rage for being oh so trippy and original was just a lame heist story with stupid flat uninteresting characters, and a boring sci-fi twist. Movies will only become more boring, loud and terrible as time goes on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It's exactly, perceptively, the fact that you saw some things you didn't like, decided that everything is like that, and fucking off on your high horse.
I'm not a big movie guy, watching movie for me is not a usual activity, but even I can tell you name you some popular stuff that is brilliant by all metrics. And if you spend any time trying to find stuff you like, you will not have enough time in a day to watch everything you want.

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