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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’ve honestly stopped caring at this point. There was a time when I would have preordered it but with Bethesda’s recent releases I will wait and see.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I for one refuse to care about this game until six months after release, when reviews are in and first batch of patches have been added. Skyrim may be great today, but it was a buggy mess upon release.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What recent actions have they taken? I'm out of the loop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Recent releases. In my opinion they haven’t released a good game in years. To be fair I have not played Starfield though. Space themes don’t really excite me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Recent? You mean the last decade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Damn! It has been that long!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same. After a few hundred hours in ESO, which was a far better experience, and watching a few videos on Starfield, I've got zero desire to buy a new Bethesda single player game.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ah yes. The 6 monthly There is no ES6 news news story.

This must be about the 30th of these I have read.

Skyrim will be old enough to vote next year...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's Beth's fault for teasing it like 10 years before release

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

When they release it it won’t matter, which doesn’t make it less dumb but they won’t suffer consequences for it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

13yos have voting rights in your country?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And Skyrim was conceived in 2006.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been Bethesda's thing for the past decade. They say nothing then a few months leading up to launch, take over the news like a giant storm.

They really fucked up by announcing it so early. And the lackluster launch of Fallout 76 (only to be patched up to a great state), as well as Starfield not being the cultural GOTY like their other games have really added more fire to the anti-Bethesda crowd.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Skyrim was a lot like a magic trick, amazing and unforgettable the first time but it wears off as you notice the world isn't as deep as it is wide. After doing the same formula with Fallout 4, and the disastrous launch of 76, even though Starfield is built to create that magic experience again it's not as effective because we've seen it before.

I won't preorder TES 6 if it ever comes out, but I will be rooting for Bethesda to shake things up, especially after BG3 showed a more complex RPG can still be a bestseller.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't call fallout 4 the same formula as Skyrim. The world building is similar, but the way you interact with it is vastly different. The focus on gunplay keeps things at a distance, vats gives you 360 threat detection in most cases, and can create a system where the game basically plays itself in combat if you want. Fallout has hard level gates, where skyrim is a softer gating which makes the world feel different.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The thing is if you’re looking for something complex like bg3 you’re definitely going to be disappointed in TES6. I’m hoping for a game that’s fun to explore and ideally more interesting and complex than skyrim. It won’t be skyrim. I won’t spend days on end playing it till my brain melts like I did with skyrim. Not because it won’t be good, but because I’m not 16 anymore. Skyrim was the absolute shit as a 16 year old in 2011, but I’m almost 30, I’m married and I’ve grown and changed. I want a game I can explore while I relax and find all sorts of cool shit. And ideally I’d like a decent mage build option for once in the series.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

After Starfield I expect absolutely fuck all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, take your time. The only way for all of it not to be a disaster is to make a good game, and we see how that's nearly impossible for them to do now. So, nobody really cares and nobody really should. I really wish they would do good, but I have zero expectations.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People will still say it was over-hyped.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

No matter how good it is, and I'm hoping for the best, it will definitely be over-hyped.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They advertised it YEARS ago. It's already overhyped.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point, the only way Bethesda has in order to avoid ES6 being over-hyped is saying something on the line: "Uh, do you remember that Skyrim game we made decade ago? Well, we're making a sequel... and it's crap"

Not that they will succeed: people will be over-hyped anyway. But it's something they can say and afterwards not being accused of over-hyping their game

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or they could just do a really good job?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

At this point people expect the vastity of ES2 with plot density of Baldur's Gate 3: good luck with that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And don't expect us to buy Elder Scrolls 6 until at least six months after release. We've been through this before, Todd.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So should I just force myself to forget this game exists? Starfield didn't do it for me, so this is the only Bethesda game I'm interested in right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I had heard one of the lead TES creative directors left Bethesda a while back and found this reddit post: Kurt Kuhlmann Has Left Bethesda Game Studios : r/teslore - Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/17b1jw8/kurt_kuhlmann_has_left_bethesda_game_studios/

Well this seems like a bit of a blow, but the one I was actually trying to remember was Michael Kirkbride (the guy behind the CHIM stuff). Apparently he's been working as a creative consultant for them since 2000, so there's a good chance he's helping with TES VI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, we’re talkin june 2029

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was a leak of bethesdas release schedule during the court hearings, which if you offset the dates due to covid, (starfield was originally taped for 2021) by 2 years, TES6 should be 2026 as the original target was 2024. That would put it as a late Xbox Series life release.