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[–] [email protected] 102 points 10 months ago

The images show war crimes CNN. War crimes.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 10 months ago (63 children)

They're straight up razing the region into the ground. How the fuck are governments okay with this wanton destruction of people's lives and homes.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Because speaking out against Israel is very frequently (and maliciously) intentionally misconstrued as antisemitism to allow them to get away with crimes against humanity. It's been this way for decades, it's just a lot more open and obvious currently.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's actually worse than that. For decades the media, politicians, and the Israeli government have deliberately conflated Israel, the country, with the Israeli government/leadership, the Israeli population, Judaism, the religion, and the Jewish community more broadly (including the diaspora).

So now any criticism of the Israeli government is a criticism of the country, the people, and the religion simultaneously, depending on what's most convenient.

And there's a few rather alarming types of political movements that deliberately blur the lines between the people, the state, and the leadership (and in this case the dominant religion) in order to minimize criticism and maximize loyalty...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Yes! Thank you for putting this out there. I always forget about that aspect of it, and I was actually just listening to an episode of Hood Politics (You wasn't outside part 2) that went over this and had a really good set of clips from a rabbi that expounded on this very topic.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's not okay, but their reasoning is:

We have to rescue out citizens who have been taken hostage.

To do that we will send in troops.

To make it safe for the troops we will level all existing structures.

Dead civilians aren't our responsibility because they are not our people.

It's ghoulish, if someone kidnapped a family and hid in the basement of my apartment, no one reasonable would support demolishing the building with people inside their homes to get at them.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Really weird to carpet bomb a country BEFORE doing anything about hostages that were taken there especially when the country is smaller than the state of Rhode Island by almost a factor of 10. Other countries have already gotten people freed, Israel was busy putting the hostages in danger.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Add on to that the REFUSAL TO ACCEPT HOSTAGES because "we don't want your dirty bargaining chips (our citizens)". Yeah, really fucking weird.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But "Israel has a right to defend itself".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I love that statement has no limits.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The rebel incursions are a direct challenge to the authority and stability of the Empire. It's crucial to respond decisively to such threats.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

I think it's a star wars quote from tarkin.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It amazes me how accurate the IDF's intelligence seems to be, they seem to know every weapon stash and tunnel entrance in the whole of gaza /s

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh no, uh, yea, they were all stashes. That house? Jihadi radio, yea. That garden? A fiendish cache of ~~turnips~~ um, bullets~~?~~

Hamas is a sack of shit org for using human shields and storing their shit in civilian residences, but the IDF is absolutely meting out collective punishment to civilians using that excuse. It has happened, sure, but fuck me, this wholesale destruction is horrific. And when Guterres alludes to that fact, the screams of objection are hideous.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Things have gotten so out of hand. It is sad to see.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There was a map somewhere that showed all of Gaza and indicated damage and destroyed - they seem to be focussing on destroying various small(ish) areas pretty much to the ground.

I assume they have intel on tunnel complexes there, or just want to be able to flatten enough to have 'safe' areas inside Gaza?

It's definitely a Russia style invasion style they are going for, not caring about collateral damage at all...

Edit: I can't find the image so I don't know if it was actually reliable

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you're referring to this Economist article which tracks the difference between October 6th and October 12th.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Not the exact map, but definitely showing the same thing (and a reputable source).

It is a huge amount of damage, but it is relatively contained (for now). I can't imagine you would feel safe in one of the undamaged areas though.

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