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[–] [email protected] 139 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That sound you just heard, was the rustle as hundreds of financial regulators around the world leant forward just a little.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

I regret I have but one upvote to give. Well done!

[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Really? Lol, no.

I like my money in a bank. Somewhere that has those "pesky" regulations that keep me from getting (too) screwed over.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If this ever comes out and you actually put your money in it, you deserve whatever fuckery happens to it. I'm sorry, but I'm completely out of empathy for Musk's fans.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In my country, your birth certificate has both your deadname and your new name on it if you changed your name. When I signed up for PayPal, I had already transitioned, so I put in my current, legal name. PayPal asked for proof that I am who I claim to be, to prevent fraud. Fair enough, I gave them my birth certificate. They looked at it, and then changed the name on my account to my deadname, which was no longer my legal name. When I told them to change it back, they said I'd have to submit a change of name form.

I knew Musk was transphobic sooner than most of the public did after that experience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Don't think this is necessarily connected to Musk though. Like, I had similar experiences with most institutions and some banks still fuck up my name. Musk probably has zero say in this. But yeah, I avoided for a long time to change my name on PayPal for this exact same reason. When I did update my name this year it did work out great however. PayPal didn't ask me for any proof and it was a smooth experience.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Musk faces major challenges to get there, though. Convincing people why they need such a platform is one. Getting them to trust X with their entire financial life is another.

It's less about trusting X but trusting Musk. Trying to make an "everything app" with him in charge just feels dystopian.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Trying to make an “everything app” with him in charge just feels dystopian.

Trying to make an “everything app” at all, whoever is in charge, is dystopian. Given the conspiracy theorists' general alarm at new world order, one world government type scenarios it's a wonder he isn't pilloried for this by the same mad bastards who advocate for him instead. Maybe he is and I just haven't kept up

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Sure, let me give all my money to the broke billionaire with the bad investment history - what could go wrong?!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just feel like musk wants a western version of wechat for a hybrid user base of hardcore republicans and hardcore libertarians. That seems like such a fundamental oxymoron... but here we are.

And in fact, I hate to say it, but given how good those groups of people are at bending reality and making themselves conform to a warped capitalist standard, it might just work out for a while. But more than likely it'll probably also go the way of "trump bucks" or whatever those psycho-loyalist cryptocoins were called. Basically it'll end up a big old miserable fraud.

The again if it's Elon's coin on the table I'm not so sure I care. He's just ruining spacex, tesla, et. al. Let him bleed money.

What's genuinely sad is that the people who can't bail from twitter quickly will be spitroasted by musk in the process.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

What's genuinely sad is that the people who can't bail from twitter quickly will be spitroasted by musk in the process.

It takes two to spitroast.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Even before Musk I wouldn't have trusted Twitter with my finances or even just my credit card.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago

Hahahahahahahaha.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Unless you give us all your money to put in our new bank, we might be facing insolvency issues."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Yes. Also commenting on your Dig Dug icon, which I love!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hmm, this seems like the sort of addition where it might have been nice to have a bunch of world leading developers and designers hanging around. Seems odd to fire them all if this was the plan.

Indeed that does seem like the sort of mistake that someone who made the largest purchase of thier life after staying up alll night playing Elden Ring would make, but i’m sure it was really a cunning 5d chess move and not evidence that our overlords who are born into wealth are just as dumb as the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Oh they're not as dumb as the rest of us, that's the scary thing. They're even dumber.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes I wonder if he's doing it on purpose. Like, this has to be a joke, right?

The level of absurd stupidity from someone who'd once seemingly tricked us all into thinking he was really smart is just.. baffling.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

from someone who'd once seemingly tricked us all into thinking he was really smart

Well, ...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Indeed that does seem like the sort of mistake that someone who made the largest purchase of thier life after staying up alll night playing Elden Ring would make

Hey, playing Elden Ring takes some skill and dedication. Did you see the build he put on Twitter that time? It was hilariously stupid. In fairness, maybe he was playing all night with it just to get past very basic foes.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

Oh hell no. I've seen how he manages his money. Like fuck I'm letting him anywhere near mine.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

I don't even trust most banks. I like my credit union, thank you very much.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Is he trying to morph a social media company into the financial services company he didn't get to build in 1999 because the board threw him out?

https://mashable.com/article/musk-x-twitter-paypal

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Yes, did you read the article? He says exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Well he can fuck right off. The moron strikes again with yet another in a long line of “no one asked for this bullshit” features that hopefully completely destroys his $44,000,000,000 toy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

I'm going to let some impulsive rich brat who paid $36B too much for a social media company, only to tank it and transform it into his own personal political misinformation machine to handle all my finances? Riiiiight.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Why would I ever want to bank with Twitter, especially while that mentally unstable idiot owns it?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I'm torn between wanting him to go hard on this so I can watch it burn and being terrified he'll somehow succeed and it will be hard to avoid.

It's already painful to stay out of Facebook's clutches.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I'm waiting for him to say something about involving crypto and AI

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He's never going to get this past the regulators. Financial break points and buffers make sense, every financial crisis and crisis of stability has taught us that. If you continue to build too big to fail systems, it's going to be a complete disaster. Deposit institutions shouldn't be involved in speculative investment banking , which is what high yield usually is. You can't pay high yields if you aren't in turn doing any sort of high yield activity with investor deposits. Or without any sort of prop trading. Which he's sort of suggesting this is going to be. Some of this sounds like it's going to break the Volcker rule.

Not to even mention this might not qualify for FDIC protections.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

No thank you. I'll keep my bank.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

This is an onion, right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Good luck to Mr. Musk, the bank ain't gonna give up my money without a fight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

🤖 I'm a bot that provides automatic summaries for articles:

Click here to see the summaryElon Musk wants X to be the center of your financial world, handling anything in your life that deals with money.

He expects those features to launch by the end of 2024, he told X employees during an all-hands call on Thursday, saying that people will be surprised with “just how powerful it is.”

“When I say payments, I actually mean someone’s entire financial life,” Musk said, according to audio of the meeting obtained by The Verge.

The company is currently working on locking down money transmission licenses across the US so that it can offer financial services.

“The X/PayPal product roadmap was written by myself and David Sacks actually in July of 2000,” Musk said on Thursday’s internal X call.

“And for some reason PayPal, once it became eBay, not only did they not implement the rest of the list, but they actually rolled back a bunch of key features, which is crazy.


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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Even if this wasn't Elon Musk, the very idea of your boss having control over your finances sounds dumb as a brick.

[Musk] "And for some reason PayPal, once it became eBay, not only did they not implement the rest of the list, but they actually rolled back a bunch of key features, which is crazy. So PayPal is actually a less complete product than what we came up with in July of 2000, so 23 years ago.”

"And for some reason not only they didn't implement a lot of my stupid ideas, but they reverted some of my dumbest takes that still went through. And 23 years later I still didn't learn."

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