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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

(does not reflect my opinion, just thought it looked funny)

Less hostile when in context.

Taken from a YouTube channel called Not Just Bikes.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Cars are already subject to noise restrictions. So effectively loud cars are banned. There is just little enforcement for most of it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Let's refocus the police funds of shooting or falsely arresting POC, and instead ticketing and enforcing the loud car situation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Who needs cops? I believe CA passed a bill to trial automatic enforcement of this issue last year. Detects excessive noise and photographs the license plates just like speed cameras.

I’m waiting to see where they will trial it. I haven’t heard anything recently.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (16 children)

I'll say that so much of this is unnecessary or even BS. Ban loud cars because they're annoying, that's all that is necessary. Set a decibel limit and if you exceed it then you can be fined. Set time limits like when most people are sleeping so you can have loud cars at some more reasonable times and ban them when people aren't expecting stupidly loud noises.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Most cities already have noise ordinances. But as usual owning a car gives you situational immunity to the law.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

They are not enforced.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This was the line of thought I had as well, it should be so easy to stop this problem as it stands

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Ok well regardless of surrounding habitats; it’s a driving hazard. Loud cars are a hazard on the road if the owner cannot hear those around them. It’s not on the list but it should be front and center when it comes to road safety around others cuz the road is shared.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fine the manufacturer for each incident with each vehicle and make them recall and fix every one to stop it. Unless it's the result of someone modifying their own vehicle, then you seize the vehicle and suspend their license.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

People modify their vehicles to be loud.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (6 children)

You guys lump motorcycles in on this, right? There's some biker rally/meetup relatively close by this week/weekend, so I'm busy giving the finger to every asshole that passes with their stupid straight-pipe harleys and dumb shitty radios screaming skynard or AC/DC.

I drive an EV, fwiw. There's literally zero public transportation here, so I'm not on the fuckcars train, sorry.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago

Fuckcars is not necessarily about not having a car. It's about wanting the conditions in which you're able to get rid of your car.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

You can have a car and still want to fuck cars... wait no... and still be fuckcars. I do, and I'm mad I need one at all without losing hours a day.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

My town has a “bike week” every few months it feels like, where all the people with their way too damn loud bikes get the privilege of blocking off half the city for a week to.. I don’t even know?? Drink, I guess? Whatever the case, a major road becomes impassable and the entire city gets too loud to have a conversation on the sidewalk. It’s awful, god knows why the city thinks it’s a good idea. Ugh, now l’m annoyed again just thinking about it…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I'd argue fossil motorcycles should be banned before fossil cars. If it's about riding with nothing between you and the ground, an electric MC will do plenty. Otherwise, cars serve the same need.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But what about that one dude who wants to go rrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRR at three in the morning and wake up everyone in a five mile radius?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or the dude who installed a cheap car alarm himself and it goes off all the time because somebody is gonna steal his 15 year old Civic

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or when these two idiots team up and guy one sets off the alarm of guy two.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

And you’ve barely slept in three weeks and you just got the baby to sleep.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

As someone who lives near a busy road: lets start with making subwoofers illegal first. Its 100x worse than a roaring engine

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

How about both? A car with a subwoofer is still a loud car.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Idk about the US but here you can be fined if you cause noise. Like maxing out the subwoofer on a parking lot next to residential areas, being a nuisance. As much as I agree with you, I still found loud exhaust/engine noise worse, just because there's much more of it.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Or just because it's annoying as hell and we have the technology to make silent cars, so there is no valid reason to have noisy cars on public roads.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

How about how some luxury cars are so silent, that speakers or exhaust diaphragms are added to make noise.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Very similar arguments apply for church bells, too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As somebody who lives in a questionable neighbor, I would personally sacrifice a lot if we could ban vehicles from playing music above personal listening levels while in residential zones. Feeling house-reverberating bass at all hours of the day is way worse than normal car noises.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

On vehicles modified for sporting purposes the silencers no longer work because the propagation of sound is different and therefore db-killers are applied or it is avoided to drive them around the city center or during off hours. Then there are people who purposely remove the silencer just to make noise and this also reduce factory performance, these deserve to have their license withdrawn because they take advantage of the fact that noisy vehicles occasionally exist.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (10 children)

In the right column should also have : cannot be aware of others on the road if you can’t hear their regular engines around you.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I moved to an apartment adjacent to an intersection on a medium-high traffic stroad and it was the biggest mistake of my life. I have never been so stressed. I can barely even enjoy music now because half the time if I hear low bass in a song I think its coming from outside and I get annoyed for a few seconds.

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