Crickets for decades but the second a high profile white guy former cop gets stabbed…
this post was submitted on 02 Dec 2023
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Racism and greed run America.
Man fucking generations of black, lation and emigrants in general dying and these fucks never have a fuck to give about inmate safety. If they start now, shiiittt we gotta get white people in to starvation, whater shortage, we gotta put white kinds in sweatshops...
Sudently I think we will finally see legislation that would reflect "our' 'values".
I thought prison violence was meant to be a feature not a bug.
Almost nobody says it out loud, but it is.
It's really sad that 22 stab wounds wasn't enough to get the job done.
They need to get him a new cellmate.
On the plus side there's now an opportunity for him to endure even more fun aspects of our prison industrial complex to which he condemned so many people. Like living with a long term disability due to the stabbing or being in solitary confinement for years on end for his protection. Keep him in there till he's begging for someone to kneel on his neck, then let him rot, forgotten and alone.
They should have just put him in the electric chair and be done with it.
Agreed
What's funny is this has been a problem for decades yet somehow one shitty racist white murderer gets spanked and it's a problem?
He murdered someone in broad daylight with an audience and laughed about it.
Yeaaaa, what the internet hive-mind picks for the topic of the week they suddenly care about really interesting, to say the least.
Actions of Derek Chauvin raise questions about detainee safety.
On the one hand, I really wish the worst part about prison was the part about being detained for an extended period of time that is long enough to make the offender regret doing it and for the public to be rid of them for a while.
On the other hand, considering that this guy was a cop and slowly murdered a man in broad daylight on a city street. Fuck that guy!
Fuck that POS. Hope it happens again & again...