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Report: Truce fell apart after Hamas refused to release more Israeli female hostages
(www.timesofisrael.com)
"Israel says..."
So it's completely untrustworthy.
this post was submitted on 02 Dec 2023
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This is a total non story.
Hamas complained a bunch of times that their soldiers in Northern Gaza were constantly being fired at, and they were having to respond to.. Israel was already in breach of the truce but Hamas kept it up in the effort to have as many of its innocent civilians imprisoned illegally without trial.
Genuinely innocent women in children prisons are being tortured, beaten to death or maimed, are psychologically tortured and had no hope of being released. This whole war is the closest Gaza has gotten in many years to have those innocent civilians released, and Israel is actually arresting as many people as it's "freeing", and in some cases is arresting the very same people it let go, months or years after.
As of yet, not a single piece of credible information has been released from Israel to suggest it is targeting Hamas fighters. Hundreds upon hundreds of homes, schools, medical facilities have been destroyed with survivors saying there were no Hamas members nearby. They've begun bombing hospitals again as soon as the truce ended, and are saying they want this war to go on for a year. They say they're using precision targeting to minimise civilian casualties, but all we see from those who are dying are innocent civilians. It's genuinely pathetic.
If they were able to brutally murder more innocent civilians in one month than Russia has killed in the entirety of its war with Ukraine, then 11 more months is nothing short of annihilation.
This has to be the most barbaric, most inhumane nation on Earth currently, as not only does it have very clear genocidal intentions and outwardly speaks about it, it has the weapons and military capability to do what it wants with the blessings of the US and Western allies.
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because it doesn’t want them speaking publicly about what they endured on Oct. 7
Which is why they released women for the other 7 days. Love how this article contradicts itself in the first sentence.
More likely Hamas wasn't satisfied or no longer needed a reason to continue the truce, so they kept the hostages for another time. Which makes sense considering the original truce started at 3 days, and Hamas probably extended it as much as they saw fit for easier rearmament.
Not to mention Israel has been double dipping pretty heavily anyway, so no point in giving up hostage leverage for no gain. They'll probably try to negotiate a new deal later down the line.
God I hate news reporting on military related conflicts because it almost always completely ignores how factions function. IDF nor Hamas are incompetent in warfare. They both have goals and know what they are trying to accomplish. Both groups barely care about the hostages beyond their use as leverage.
Which is why they released women for the other 7 days. Love how this article contradicts itself in the first sentence.
Here's the entire sentence:
Israeli official says Hamas doesn’t want to release remaining women because it doesn’t want them speaking publicly about what they endured on Oct. 7 and in their time in captivity
which clearly implies that Hamas was fine releasing female hostages that were treated okay, but is refusing to release the remaining female hostages that have possibly been abused, raped, sexually mistreated.
You obviously don't have to agree with that analysis, but where exactly do you see the contradiction?
They released 80year old women and kids. You must know this and are just trying to avoid admitting that Hamas are rapists
https://news.sky.com/story/who-are-the-first-71-israeli-hostages-released-by-hamas-13015007
Literally the frontpage news, what are you living under a rock?
They even provided pictures and descriptions of everyone in case you somehow failed to notice.
That user has a habit of posting disinformation. Is there any way to report them for it?
Did Israel release or capture more Palestinians during the ceasefire?
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