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[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can drop a bomb in the middle of a crowd of people and still claim to not have been targeting the people, they were just there. Doesn't really change the evilness of the action one way or the other.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

"They put on a blindfold and fired into a crowd with a machine gun. Clearly, as they weren't specifically targeting the civilians in the crowd, it's all okay!" - State Department desperately trying to come up with excuses for American policy towards Israel

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago

Got it, all those people in the refugee camps weren't civilians.

I guess anything to justify mass murder...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

Bombing promised safe routes and locations is totally not targeting civilians. Just ignore the mountain of bodies. Even if Hamas was sneaking out of them, you promised they'd be safe. The civilians had no other choice.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

True, they're not targeting civilians. They're just killing everyone indiscriminately. Hell, they've even killed Israelis.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is there any evidence they are making any effort to avoid or reduce civilian deaths?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, the leaflets that warn civilians which areas will be bombed

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

It's evidence that they're trying to create the appearance of avoiding civilian casualties.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

All those journalists dying in their beds at night aren’t targeted eh? Seems legit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

More dead journos in 90 days than all of WW2.

Doesn't look like anything to me.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just like there no evidence police deliberately use excessive force. It’s just standard procedure, nothing personal.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Clearly those Palestinians being bombed should have just complied.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For sake of argument, suppose they earnestly believe this. I can think of a scenario consistent with that belief: that they also believe there are no civilians in the region, and that everyone present is Hamas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then all you need to tie a psychopathic bow on that is to say that anyone that doesn't openly denounce Hamas is part of Hamas.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Checkout because these kids didn't condem Hamas.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not better than killing thousands of civilians UNINTENTIONALLY.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Nor does it remove it from being a war crime. Just being indifferent to whether one hits civilians or not is a war crime. The bar is one has to concern oneself actively with considering how to minimise civilian casualties.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

And we're going to belive the fucking state department? Yeah right.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It seems more like a wanton disregard for civilian casualties. Blowing up entire apartment towers because they believe one or more people there were valid targets is unacceptable but not technically targeting civilians.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Maybe not deliberately, but is bombing buildings not caring if kids are in them or not better?? Not journalists killing is what I would like to see them comment on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

You're going to have to take my word for it because I'm lazy and in bed, but Israel goes to serious effort to make no distinction between civilian, terrorist, protester or child.

They have rules of engagement so broad that basically nobody is safe. When soldiers gunned down children, they are either not charged or cleared by falsified evidence. Some of which admits that they killing was unjustified and offers alternative explanations to be given to the press.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Their bombs arent deliberately targeting much of anything... Even though those bombs are extremely expensive and capable of centimeter precision targeting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I've seen video of civvies in Gaza trying to take cover away from open space and being shot right through the knee. It's been circulating since what I think in real time would be 2 nights ago. State department has been captured by the IDF.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The Yankee War Machine department expects me to believe this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Hamas was just the bodies that fell along the way.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

All good then, you may resume. /S

God is dead still, they keep killing him for some reason. Sides don't matter.

Might as well justify America's mass shootings too. War is war.

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