Mozilla using their limited funding to improve the last libre and independent web browser instead of the most useless and overdone ai hipster shit in existence challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) (FAILED)
this post was submitted on 14 Dec 2023
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The problem is that all their money comes from Google and that's a very poor position for them to be in. If they want to be independent and not at the mercy of Google, they need to find other means of funding.
Not a fan of the AI stuff but if it can loosen Google's grip on Mozilla, I'm all for it
Investors like the word AI
I mean AI is going to happen regardless; I'd rather Mozilla ensures that it's ethical, consumer friendly, and private when it does
I have approximately zero faith that Mozilla will even try to do any of those three things
No shit Firefox is really missing:
- systemwide Webview for Android and Linux
- sandbox compatible with Chromium, especially on Linux and Android
- webapps through a secondary profile
- very secure preset in privacy settings to make it en par with Torbrowser / Arkenfox
- native support for custom Search engines (literally Edge and Chrome have that)
- possibility for a side panel with custom sites.
Thats it basically. Firefox is great
native support for custom Search engines
Can you explain what do you mean by this? I'm already using Firefox address bar to search game wikis directly
Fenix allows actual manual search engines but no opensearch, Desktop allows opensearch but no manual ones. Yay!
All the good sites have no opensearch, and you cant do cool stuff like presetting the sorting or only used on Ebay.
- https://mozilla.github.io/geckoview/
- sandbox compatible? Elaborate please
- PWAs would be awesome, agreed
- bad for casual, non-techie users, which expect pages to work
- every site that supports opensearch is supported, just go on a page supporting it, click on the address bar and click on the green plus symbol
- side bar exists as an API for extensions, same for containers! Mozilla provides an official extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/side-view/
Geckoview is not a webview for those Platforms.
The Chromium sandbox is way better
https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html
Very secure profile. Your argument makes no sense, it would be opt in and Arkenfox works nearly everywhere.
Yeah I am not talking about opensearch but actual custom Search parameters. Fenix doesnt support opensearch too.
~~Oh nice extension, will try that!~~ no that is not a sidebar I would like
Addition: gui button for managing profiles, especially for secure and insecure profile. Most people dont even know profiles exist!
Also: unlocking profile with hardware key
Firefox webview would be amazing
Also hdr support on windows (and Linux, but there's other issues there)
You're saying this as if AI stuff won't just be more relevant over time.
Yes, I'd much rather have Mozilla make our future AI tools than yet another for-profit company
To be fair on Mozilla, it's practically a for profit company, donations make up about 1-2% of their income, with most of their money coming from having google as default search engine
That’s got nothing to do with being for profit…
oh yeah, also the mozilla foundation (non-profit) has 100% share in two for-profit corporations, mozilla corporation and MZLA technologies corporation, and all three are run by the same ceo
so technically it is non-profit, but it at least seems very blurry
Those are for their VPN and other services, not Mozilla Firefox or their contribution to web standards. The foundation is separate from their for-profit tools.
Would be nice but Mozilla's website builder uses OpenAI's stuff
I donated to thunderbird! :)
They said UwU so it's fine.