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https://teddit.zaggy.nl/r/Psychonaut/comments/18mth6c/peyote_is_the_darling_of_the_psychedelics/

Honestly this whole thread is a cesspool, pure psychic damage. There are literally functional alternatives, but still these self-enlightened egolords can't keep their fucking hands off an endangered plant. The prevailing attitude looks to be "Its there, so I i am entitled to plunder it"

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Sweet, now I have a leftist justification for my aversion to psychedelics! (I don't want my brain chemistry fucked with anymore than it already is)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

the hitler-detector is going wild in this thread

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (9 children)

This should apply to magic mushrooms as well. That was NEVER white culture, taking them is a form of expropriation of the exterminated Aztecs and other indigenous cultures.

Basically, if you’re not native, why are you doing the chemical equivalent of putting on a native headdress for fun?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Quick aside, why don't conservationists take some of the plant into a greenhouse and grow a fuck ton of it so it's no longer endangered?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Some people do it, some grow it in more appropriate areas. But reintroducing it requires the actual land, and an effort to clean it of invasives and anything else that caused it's status previously.

For human use, see https://youtu.be/CpM5-xJZKbQ . Guy grows it for NAC use. Fair warning that channel is NSFW and the guy can be a bit abrasive but he does some good work putting out high quality footage of a diverse range of plants. And in this case, shows off someone trying to stem the harm of humans on their environment.

Also, from what I gather, most of the damage is from white people misusing peyote, and the US government punishing anyone who isn't NAC related who tries to grow it.

Edit: Also I see the other comments, that channel is Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't. Look around for his intro to botany and guerilla gardening videos. Importantly, you'll want to look for other content specific to your local area! I think one of his guerilla gardening was in California so its pretty specific. The USDA has some ok resources, lots of universities have good guides on planting native (search your area, state, city, etc, plus native or sustainable gardening), and https://www.prairiemoon.com/ has some good search tools to show seed local to your area. They can be a bit pricey, but it can be a good start.

Also its important to just have fun! I don't worry about planting entirely local or native. Even if you plant just a few plants, it can be a good start! Gardeners tend to be pretty good people, so don't be afraid to ask around either.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Is going out and foraging for natural payote part of the whole deal? I know nothing about any of this

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