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It can sometimes be hard to separate the artist from their art. Are there any artists who were bad people but whose work you still enjoy?

Feel free to answer if you're in the opposite scenario: an artist who you love personally but don't enjoy their artwork.

Feel free to respond more than just music artists!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

It's the an artist that doesn't fall into this category?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Asimov, from all accounts, was quite a creep but dammit if his writing isn't good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Micheal Jackson and his songs had a massive influence until the child abuse allegations came out. Then I didn’t care about his songs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I like the music by Demons & Wizards, a metal band, which was formed as a collaboration between Blind Guardian's Hansi Kürsch (vocals) and Iced Earth's Jon Schaffer (guitar). Their first album from 1999 is legendary imo.

So let's see what Jon has been up to since... Oh. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55626148

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Great fucking band, shitty person lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I was a huge Iced Earth fan before that day. Fuck that guy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Aside from dictators (who are by definition very, very shitty people, but almost always have an art career for some reason), assuming actors don't count as artists, I'd have to say the only example I can think of is Butch Hartman, not shitty because of his character but because he's like the other JK Rowling.

To answer the second question, literally all the e-artists I've ever met, though art is relative enough I don't feel like art can have a "negative" value. I trust they will never see this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

If by "e-artist" you mean "artist/illustrator that makes art digitally and posts it online" then... Uh... Well, one artist has seen this. ^^;

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

My favourite book is Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. My edition has a foreword about how Lewis Carroll wasn't really a pedophile. He just had so many pictures of naked kids, spent so much time with them and wanted to marry the real Alice while she was young solely because he had soooo much love for children. Not in a creepy way at all. No no, not at all creepy.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nooo.. I'm ootl what happened?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well he’s always been a notorious asshole, but he’s been publicly saying especially stupid shitty things since, well, since Obama was elected President.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Definitely not shitty-bad, but it seemed like a Seinfeld moment. Looks like he's still a small artist so I won't name him here - but a guy I sat next to on a plane turned out to have drawn/designed the shirt I wore that day. We were having a nice chat when the discussion turned to the CCP and his admiration for their authoritative actions.

I definitely Noped out mentally from the conversation, but we still kept talking for a while because.... well we were on a plane. Was still a nice guy (to me) - just ...interesting.. views.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

This thread is bumming me out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Like many mentioned, lots of examples. First one to come to mind for me was Exurb1a. Sarcastic and witty videos about science, philosophy, futurism, etc. I remember one video had a joke about tossing an ex out a window I found uncomfortable, but he also used a bunch of self derogatory humor etc, and his style did include exaggerated characters etc.

Then some convincing evidence came out that he was an abuser and iirc also raped someone. I don't have the link now and as usual don't believe stuff a random anonymous person says on the internet, but it was disappointing to say the least.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's kind of a big list. Mostly actors and filmmakers, but also game designers and developers and executive producers. Some of the biggest pieces of shit have played a role in some great movies and other artistic projects. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why is Noone mentioning Adolf Hitler?

[–] HeavyRaptor 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you a fan of his earlier or later work?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Lostprophets were one of my favourite band during my formative years, and I still love the music, but any time I hear it now I can't get past the fact that the singer was a literal baby rapist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I enjoy a lot of books written by Larry Niven. But in real life he seems to be a bit of a pro-government totalitarian.

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