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[–] [email protected] 126 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Interesting that the article thinks 50 to 65 is the boomer generation. Poor Gen X will be forgotten until they are no more.

I'm definitely represented in this article. I basically don't buy beef anymore despite being raised with it was the centerpiece of my diet.

I've learned to embrace plant-based alternatives generally find them as enjoyable if not more so than beef.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't mind being forgotten, but I mind being lumped with the boomers.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Damn boomers can't even keep to their own generation

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Get off my decade!!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Amen brother.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I think of Gen X as people born in the 70s or late 60s, so that age range is pretty much split between X and Boomers imo. They also mention later on that both generations are responsible for similar rates of meat consumption

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can confirm. I'm Gen X and we buy beef by the cow from local farmers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Best way to do it imo

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's totally fair and it's a great article, it just made me laugh. Thanks for sharing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I think both points still stand! Boomers go to the mid sixties which means the upper range of 50 to 65 covers boomers. However, the bottom range is definitely Gen X and the authors forgot you!

Having made the mistake of forgetting Gen X in a comment the other day my eyes have been opened.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Boomers/Old GenX still act like Millennial, a generation in their 30s and 40s, is a word for children or young adults.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Who would have guessed, a generation that is constantly struggling on money can't buy expensive meat at the same rate the generation that got everything handed to them has been. Who could have known that there were unforseen consequences to economic strategies that have produced one of the greatest period of economic disparity of all time!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

It's almost as though massive wealth consolidation and the maintenance of an economic underclass as we prioritise unproductive shareholders over productive workers is bad for the economy.

Who'd have thought?

[–] [email protected] 82 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Great, it's terrible for the environment and fairly insane animal welfare-wise. So it's cool that we can just stop doing that. The business already doesn't make economic sense and has been heavily subsidized in various ways by the government for decades. I thought capitalists loved the theory of supply and demand?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

*Heavily subsidized by taxpayers

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (14 children)

I used to love eating meat, till I had to actually think about ethics beyond "whatever the bible says is right" and recognize that all sentient beings are morally relevant

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Do you mean sapient? Because plants are also sentient; all sentience is is the ability to react to senses. Sapience on the other hand is the ability to have higher thought, like tool use, teaching, recognizing yourself in a mirror, etc... Finally there is the ability to feel pain which I do not think has a word. Plants from what we can tell cannot process pain, but can process negative stimuli.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I've found a lot of people in my generation (Millennial) don't eat red meat, not because they don't want to but because they can't. It gives me incredible heartburn, and many of my friends become physically ill if they eat it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Wasn’t there a disease going around that made people sick when eating red meat?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (7 children)

It's from a tick bite, not something we can spread to one another.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Tick bites can cause it. Something about your body building immunity to a protein transferred by the tick that closely matches those found in beef or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There’s a kind of tick that, once it bites you, causes you to be deathly allergic to red meat from that point forward.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not always! Last I heard, it can and does wear off. Might take 6-months, might take years. I gather the effect is so rare we don't have a ton of data.

But I'm often full of shit! Look it up yourself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You are probably full of shit every day. Until you visit the loo. So don't hold it against yourself!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

For a non-tick response- Prion contamination resulting in Mad Cow Disease. One meal and your brain eventually rots in moldy cheese.

[–] stoy 6 points 8 months ago

Yep, there is, it spreads though tic bites, and once bitten you will allways get sick after eating red meat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Alpha-gal syndrome. It's not that common that it will affect entire populations.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Millennial here and I've had a similar experience. I ate a ton of red meat growing up, but once I got to my early-to-mid 30s, I noticed beef would give me a lot of stomach issues. I switched to eating chicken and sometimes (depending on the dish) substituting the meat entirely for black beans and found my stomach issues got a lot better. And it's still just as tasty to me, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’ll usually find that burgers/steaks etc at restaurants are what usually bother me more than if i go and buy/season/cook myself. Not sure if it’s just over seasoned meat, or the type/quality. Even then, I usually prefer chicken or turkey-based (lower fat) alternatives or mixes (like a turkey ground chuck).

I haven’t really gotten into plant-based alternatives, though I’m not opposed to it…as long as it tastes good! Lol

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

When I had Celiac undiagnosed, all I could figure out was that I felt awful after meals. My theory was I needed to eat more healthy. I started eating whole and organic foods, which didn't help, then became a vegetarian, which didn't help (and some people sure were dicks about it). But yeah, anything that leads to eating more veggies and fiber can help with certain digestive issues and overall health.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I don't get heartburn, but I also don't poop for a few days.

I don't not eat beef/meat, but I also don't really eat it either.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Oh no. Anyway…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Only in the Northern hemisphere. Current industry trends indicate some major meat-craving markets gearing up as we speak (e.g., Brazil). Likely a growing demand continues far into the future right now, even if some developed nations are seeing the pendulum swing the other way.

The problems of meat production on the climate are NOT going to go away on their own.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

China is also driving a lot of the global growth in beef consumption. Any recently industrialized country really

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just in time for alt-meats to become cost-comparable and palatable enough to compete I'm genX, voting with my dollars for that, despite beef being so delicious

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

The only reason plant based meats haven't been way cheaper than animal meat the entire time is because of how heavily subsidized the animal agriculture industry is. Without the government literally single handedly propping up the industry it wouldn't be a viable way to make money.

[–] stoy 11 points 8 months ago

I used to eat a LOT of red meat, but I have started getting bored with it.

So now, I am eating more chicken, and most of the red meat I still buy comes from a nice farm shop, I realize it is a luxury, but I can afford it and it is tastier than store bought meat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have stopped eating as much beef mostly for economical reasons. I used to eat steak since I loved it and its easy to cook. However, its now way too expensive to buy casually. I love a good steak at a restaurant so that is mostly the only time I eat it now. That it is bad for my health and the environment are mostly secondary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you mean to cook at home, I've done well by not caring about the cut and buying whatever is one sale. Not like, old and discounted, but often the stores near me have sales when they have a lot of something or who knows. I bought a 2.2 lb roast for $9 the other day for instance, which is enough for me to eat for days and is even cheaper than ground beef.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

We buy beef like twice a month. Just trying to maintain a healthier diet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Self reducing demographic

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I guess beef isn't what's for dinner.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is ludicrous, especially in the US. Demand has skyrocketted, processing is at all time highs, and prices are reflecting this.

I think someone is smelling their own farts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Demand is up because population is up. Per capita consumption is down, per the article that part doesn’t seem to be disputed

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