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submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

I really can't stand their skewed priorities in contrast to the state of Firefox.

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[-] [email protected] 205 points 6 months ago

Skewed priorities like trying to make sure that Firefox continues to exist even with the massive amount of competition in the browser space and everything being taken over by chromium. Yeah. Definitely skewed priorities.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

you ratiod the shit outta OP

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Mozilla laid off the entire Servo team (new browser engine built with rust) in 2020 and shifted more focus to products and services other than Firefox (like their VPN, Pocket, etc.) - this is public knowledge, they literally published the email that was sent to employees that day (https://blog.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Message-to-Employees-Change-in-Difficult-Times.pdf ).

[-] [email protected] 135 points 6 months ago

naah, I like mozilla while they aren't perfect but they are on our side in my opinion

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

covert monopoly with g**gle

[-] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They really just can't get a break. When they take money from Google they get attacked. When they try to create other revenue streams (pocket, vpn, etc.) they get attacked. I don't think you want the browser to be a paid for subscription product and the donations aren't enough to reliably cover browser development.

Maintaining and keeping secure a large standards compliant browser is decidedly expensive. And most of the expenses are not one off they are ongoing.

[-] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

factually incorrect, they're just paid to have them as the default search engine and they need that money to maintain the browser

[-] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago

also for "see we're not a monopoly, firefox exists!"

which is no fault of firefox

[-] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago

they get paid billions of dollars and all you have to do is switch default search engines win win if you really hate it DONATE TO MOZILLA

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

I don't see you helping keep the lights on.

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[-] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

>goes online

>shitposts

>refuses to elaborate further

>leaves

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago

Listen, I love what Mozilla stands for, or at least what they claim to stand for. But every time they've been asked to choose between their principles and money, they've chosen money. On the one hand, I kind of don't blame them -- after all, if I was a scrappy broke nonprofit singlehandedly maintaining one of the most complex and fast-moving pieces of software mankind has ever devised, I'd probably take money wherever I could get it too -- but on the other, paying lip service to caring about your users' privacy isn't a good look

[-] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago

It takes nearly as long to decrapify a new Firefox install as it does to compile Librewolf.

Install uBlock.

Tell Firefox that you don't want to sync at the moment.

Disable "sponsored" stories. AKA, listicles designed to draw in idiots who want to see which 8 child actors from the 90s turned out to be the tallest. Alarmingly close to the tacky crap that you might see on a fresh Windows install.

Tell Firefox that you don't want to sync at the moment.

Now disable Pocket. Remembering to go into about:config to really disable it

Disable telemetry.

Tell Firefox that you don't want to sync at the moment.

Remove Amazon, Bing, et al. from the search engine list.

Remove "suggested" and "sponsored" autocomplete.

Tell Firefox that you don't want to sync at the moment.

Remind yourself that, despite this crap, Firefox is still a better browser than any Chromium knockoff.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

sorry but disabling telemetry is the worst thing you can do if you care about firefox growing and fixing issues.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Sync between mobile and Firefox is good though. Sadly I use Samsung Internet on Android because I think it's better, but when I used Firefox on both it was really good. I can still use KDE Connect to send the link to my clipboard, but it doesn't always connect (after a reboot) automatically.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Samsung internet is chromium and often out of date. On Android, use Fennec or Mull (both firefox based, mull is the best security*/privacy android browser)

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

It's not a bad thing that Firefox is doing little things to attract a broader audience, luckily you don't set it up very often and sync is there to use.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

except it is like making it so things can just download without asking so you can go to a webpage and it just downloads stuff automatically which is really insecure but hey chrome does it that way so mozilla just oh so obviously has to copy them yeah you can fix it but that should in no way be the default

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Change it so it asks where to download files and this stops, it's the better option anyway, just less basic user friendly.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Sometimes this doesn't work though. I use Firefox at work, but I'm required to use Google Drive, and any pdf from Drive will automatically download to my default download location without prompting me. This may not be Mozilla's fault, but it's shitty that any site can just choose to ignore my preferences.

I have a similar problem on Android with forcing pinch to zoom. Sites can and do use code to forcibly resist this accessibility setting. Like, a lot of sites.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Firefox users will do all that and then wonder why Google is Mozilla's sole source of income.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

What does "really disable it" mean? How is removing the button from the toolbar different from disabling it in about:config?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

What about Palemoon? Or epiphany which is pretty decent if you enable extensions support via gsettings and use /etc/hosts for blocking ads for better performance?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Setting up arkenwolf once takes half an hour, and from then on you can just copy and paste it and update it every 3.000 years.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Twenty years of constant grinding mistreatment of a once-enthusiastic userbase.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So what's up with moizlla?

Edit: of course I meant Mozilla. The company behind Firefox and Thunderbird.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

So what’s up with moizlla?

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Firefox is wonderful. Mozilla is a fucking mess.

I have been using this browser primarily or exclusively since before it was called Firefox. I can't tell you the earliest version I still have an installer for, because neither Wine nor Windows will run it. It remains the best option - by a long shot - but not because it's getting any better.

The time to burn the bird again was a decade ago.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

There is no reason why a "privacy focused browser" should have clickbate news stories on their front page.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

You can easily remove them. Mozilla isn't a for profit company, but they need to have money to run somehow. Dunno if you've seen Chrome lately but it's 1000x worse.

[-] AI_toothbrush 7 points 6 months ago

Am i missing something?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

It's not like it used to be. Even thunderbird has had tons of great work put into it. If you're ever sick of using weird stuff like palemoon you should see for yourself. All the extensions I liked are back.

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