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Google is going to release new manifest v3. How could it harm uBlock Origin? And will Firefox and Safari become the only major browsers that fully support uBlock Origin?

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Geez just use Firefox already. A browser from an ad company is gonna serve u ads. 🥸 And then you don’t have to waste your time on this bullshit

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I've been saying this for damn near 15 years. It's odd that people migrated from Firefox to Chrome in the first place. Obviously not everyone who uses Chrome did that but I know quite a few people who did and are now talking about switching back. These are people who generally believe independent and open source is the best way to go too.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago

It's odd that people migrated from Firefox to Chrome in the first place.

I migrated from Firefox to Chrome years and years ago when Chrome was lightning fast with a bazillion tabs open and Firefox had some memory leak that forced me to reload a couple times a day. I have since moved back and realized all my old problems are no longer a thing, but I can definitely see why some would have made the switch and never tried moving back.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Sadly, this is because FF wasn’t a good browser for many for a hot minute. Many websites, particularly ones with media, didn’t work well with it. I was one of the ones who switched during this time. I didn’t use Chrome, personally, but I can see why some chose it as an option when facing the same problems I had. FF has since fixed these issues and I switched back to FF quite awhile ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

From what I saw. It was more Internet Explorer to Chrome.

Back in the day Firefox wasn't as polished as it was now. Think more Open Office than Libre Office.

All machines had IE and it sucked, crashed but was default. Then I tried Chrome and it was good. Then moved everyone to it since the alternatives weren't as good.

Years later, chrome is still good compared to IE, but now Firefox is slightly better. For all intent and purpose it's the same but some qol features here and there made me move.

But for everyone else they don't want or need to move. So until it gets worse than IE they'll stay.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I believe some chromium based browsers will continue to support their own flavours of adblock.

But Firefox is the way to go

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago

uBlock Origin works best on Firefox. If you're going to use uBlock. Firefox is the best browser for it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Firefox is a good browser and unfortunately the only fully independent one. But I also believe there might be a bigger Chromium development split happening. Nothing increases action and unites people like a monopoly pushing greed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

As long as it's Blink, it's not worth the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the only fully independent one

ahem

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Fair point, they receive Google money. But its technological backend is not bound to Chromium.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No, it won't be blocked.

That being said, it will be handicapped.

https://www.spacebar.news/chrome-ad-blocking-manifest-v3-ublock-origin/

Safari doesn't have uBlock Origin at the moment AFAIK; it was discontinued. uBlock Origin on Firefox will continue using MV2 which allows for better extension/list updating.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I find it hard to believe that there's any overlap on the Venn Diagram between people technologically literate to use the Fediverse and people who still use Chrome. I'm always shocked to see posts like this. For OP, join us

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Some sites work much better with Chromium. I default to Firefox (LibreWolf), though.

I can't imagine keeping myself locked into only one browser. For as long as I can remember, I've always used at least two.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I always keep chrome installed and updated alongside the other browsers. Sometimes it's necessary for certain websites

  • Firefox: 90% of my usage
  • Mullvad: for tasks where privacy is extra important
  • chrome: when websites don't work with the above
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If it doesn't work with Firefox and a VPN I just don't use that service anymore. Im not going to go out of my way to use a service that doesn't support certain browsers. Except for my bank.... They win that battle against the VPN

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My bank actually reccommends Firefox alongside Chrome and Safari.

Which is pretty much the only thing I can respect about them, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

My bank just doesn't like a VPN which is a little annoying but understandable to some extent

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I open up chrome are when there isn't an alternative

Some banking services and authentication for certain Google products that I need for school or work

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

people technologically literate to use the Fediverse and people who still use Chrome.

Being a technologically literate person, I usually have 2-4 different browsers on my devices.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

One of my computers is a Chromebook (which I was required to have in order to run my college's proctoring spyware, and bought before the Manifest V3 controversy was a thing). I've tried running Firefox on it inside the Linux virtual environment but it doesn't work well, and the issue hasn't been urgent enough to be worth blowing away Chrome OS and making it into a normal Linux laptop yet.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately, Firefox is the best option right now, and it works rather well, unlike about 5-6 years back when it was horrible.

I'll use Librewolf and Ungoogled-Chromium

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Manifest v3 has been out for a while now, they are just blocking manifest v2. There will probably be a way to fix it, but there is always other browsers like brave that have built in adblockers that block basically anything. While people were worrying about whether they will be blocked from YouTube and ublock was having issues that were soon fixed, brave never got a single pop-up asking to disable your adblocker once. Also you can use some VPN adblockers that work through blocking it from your network like AdAway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Basically, yes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Most filterlists that are used for adblocking will not work with MV3. The allowed number of filter rules is way too low for any meaningful adblocking.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Genuine question here, whenever these posts about browsers come up (which is very often) I never see anyone mentioning Opera. What's the reason for this? I seem to remember it being very popular with the tech crowd a number of years ago, that might be misremembering on my part!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Opera is owned by a weird group of Chinese investors, collects your data and sends it to China. They also use crappy marketing practices, and the Opera GX "Gaming Browser" is a fucking joke. And their VPN isn't even a VPN, it's just a proxy. Not a company I would trust, especially when there are much better options like Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh right, that's not great. I suppose I'll see if I can make the switch to FF

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I thought switching to ff would be painful but the migration tool handles most of the heavy lifting! You will have to sign into most sites again but your saved passwords transfer. Most youll really have to do is just find any addons you use again

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They used to back in the internet explorer era have the fastest web engine. The reason they aren't talked about much these days is because they are yet another chromium browser.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Ah I see, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately only chrome has full support for Dragon professional, and Edge can be made to work. The dragon extension for Firefox stopped working and Microsoft, who now own dragon, doesn't have any incentive to fix it.

The unofficial supper via the ClickbyVoice extension doesn't have a Firefox version.

I would love to hear alternatives that support link numbering and voice commands :)

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago

Should be in Tech Support. Locking.