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NIS 200 million suit says party should not have been approved so close to border and should have been dispersed immediately, when military discovered threat of potential attack

In the first civil suit of its kind, a group of injured survivors of the Supernova rave massacre on Monday sued Israel’s security forces for damages over their alleged negligence leading up to the October 7 Hamas onslaught, claiming hat the tragedy could have largely been averted.

The 42 plaintiffs filed the claim for NIS 200 million ($56 million) at the Tel Aviv District Court against the Shin Bet security service, the Israel Defense Forces, the Israel Police, and the Defense Ministry, alleging multiple instances in which they failed in their duties.

“A single phone call by IDF officials to the commander responsible for the party to disperse it immediately in view of the expected danger would have saved lives and prevented the physical and mental injuries of hundreds of partygoers, including the plaintiffs,” the lawsuit said. “The negligence and the gross oversight is beyond belief.”

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“On the night between October 6 and October 7, at least two IDF assessments were held due to unusual incidents on the Gaza Strip border, one near midnight and another assessment close to 3 a.m., several hours before the Hamas attack,” the lawsuit read.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

From the moment I learned about the rave being attacked I thought it was insane that they were holding a party of that kind that close to Gaza. It'd be like holding burning man a few miles from occupied Kharkiv in Ukraine. Sure, it would most likely be safe, but who the fuck would think it's a good idea?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

I'm pretty sure it's just part of the strategy of piecemeal grabbing of territory. First you start using the buffer zone as an actual buffer zone, then you start gradually allowing more and more use of the space until you've got basically a whole city right next to the border. Then you inevitably get a new 'security incident', which warrants the establishment of a new buffer zone, which is carved out of more previous Palestinian territory.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think the average Israeli doesn't know the reality of what is across the border, literally hundreds of feet from them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I went to Israel for a few days and was keen to go to Bethlehem. The Israelis I bet were terrified of the idea, and thought I'd be killed if I went. (I didn't go).

They seemed to be quite cognisant of the danger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Bullshit. They're all forced to join the military.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Good luck and godspeed, may you be successful.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if there will be another lawsuit over bombing / shooting the hostages. Just horrific.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Fundamentally different things... Party goers were doing a thing in a place where the government expressly says it's safe and you don't need to go around armed. Very different from enemy combatants using hostages as shields.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Do they mention the friendly fire victims?