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Greenland startup begins shipping glacier ice to cocktail bars in the UAE (www.theguardian.com)
submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/10484686

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (2 children)

While ridiculous, there's interesting context here.

  • Greenland has little to no economy
  • The ice is mined from ice that has already broken away from the glacier, thus not reducing any more than nature has already
  • Cargo ships bringing frozen food used to leave empty, now that same fuel is used to transport ice back instead of going to waste
  • The founder has always dreamed of a sustainable economy for Greenland
  • He is conflicted about how his work to do this in a sustainable way is being taken

Lots of gray here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You answered all the questions I had when I saw this. It does really depend on the context. Another positive thing might be that the amount of ice they are able to transfer to be used as ice cubes in a drink is less fresh water melt that would have gone into the oceans (affecting things like the AMOC), which is one of many concerns about Greenland's melting ice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The water from the ice will find its way to the oceon whether it melts in Greenland or the UAE though?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, with different effects. I'm not saying this will really have a measurable influence, but melt into Greenland waters is far worse than in most other places. Just look into papers discussing the AMOC slowdown and its causes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Well, arguably, maybe not.

Relocating it into more distant water cycles kinda dilutes the dilution, so to speak. Rather than dumping a bunch of fresh water directly into salt water, it lets it trickle back slowly and gives ocean water a bit of a buffer to disolve more saline, and gives it a chance to get stuck on terra firma somehow.

I didnt expect a good explanation for this, but harvesting broken glacier isnt a bad idea on paper.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Wow ok, that makes more sense.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

And glaciers are still not protected from idiots doing stuff like this because?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because lemmings are not reading the articles, just like redditors. Some things never change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I guarantee since the first printed material people tended to read the headlines and react first. If there had been a way to post an opinion in a printed newspaper instantly there would have been the same results.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Hunh. I've not seen this zombie outbreak movie yet. Interesting take on the "patient zero" trope, though. 🤔

edit: Sorry, forgot the /s 🤪

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's been done, just not a movie:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Um. Heh. MtG was not the first by a long shot, and clearly named the card after John Carpenter's classic, to be fair. 🤗

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

Wealth is much too concentrated in the hands of a few people. People do this as the planet heats up and poor die in the streets simply because they were born somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I see no future problems with this ever. Definitely not going to run out of ice any time soon!

/s just in case.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

UAE should really catch up with the newest refrigeration techniques, ice trade is a bit old fashioned.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I wonder how long until they decide to cut out the middle man and just tell their patrons that its "glacier" ice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's just fucking water lol

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but with a small chance of unknown deadly permafrost bacteria, therefore the price difference. ;)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If we could make sure the ice being sent contains some form of the plague that all these rich idiots get, we could really do a whole lot of good real quick.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Great

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It's all gonna melt soon so might as well make a quick buck off of it right? /s