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Basically the title. I would rather not get scammed.. :) The idea is to move to GrapheneOs as my next step, but I don't necessarily need the newest device.

Edit: yeah I was being too generic, Austria is were I am.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Answers depend very much on where in Europe you are.

https://iode.tech/en/ sells some refurbished Pixels with LineageOS installed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't know this, thanks!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Willhaben, mit paylivery läuft das alles bestens. Pixels gibts halt eher selten, ich würd mir einen Suchagentenen einstellen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't know about paylivery... Vielen Dank!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i havent bought there myself yet,
but so far i only heared good things about backmarket, which specializes in refurbished devices

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My experience with Backmarket was horrible and the S21 I got from them was advertised as being in "perfect condition" but resembled more a phone that endured World War II so I had to send it back for a refund. Backmarket is merely a marketplace for refurbishers, they don't really check the phones that are being sold on its marketplace and anyone can easily put "perfect condition" when it's clearly not the case.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok thanks, I was looking at the website and trying to understand if it should be trusted..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be very careful if I were you, see my comment above.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That doesn't sound good, thanks for the warning!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Grabbed mine on Facebook Marketplace for cheap. Just meet somewhere public and use cash.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not on FB, need another way :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just make a random burner account. I get the adversity to Facebook but the marketplace is very good. If you want a cheap and good condition phone you'll want to look around on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't they need a phone number now? That would really be a last resort..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I never had to use my phone number, just used an alias email that points to my real email.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

maybe there is something like refurbed.at somewhere close to you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That might be greatly helpful, since I'm in Austria at the moment!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you go with a refurbed website, make sure that the phone has the ability to use OEM unlock. Some refurbed sites sell Verizon versions of the phones and don't disclose this and Verizon along with other US carriers block OEM unlocking which means you can't install another OS. There is no known workaround as far as I know. I had this issue before with a refurbed Pixel 4

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how reliable eBay in Europe is, but I would suggest finding one available from a highly rated seller on eBay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know it either, but if I can't find another way I'll have to look into it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why do you want to pay for a phone made by a company that is centralizing the Internet through them and adding DRM to websites?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Do you have an actual suggestion or are you just wasting my time? It is said in the post why.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

because GrapheneOS

also, this way, privacy is ¹/₅ the price of librem or fairPhone