Women in Gaza having c-sections without painkillers as girls use tent scraps for period products : worldnews

[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fucking disgraceful. I wish we would sanction Israel.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

We won't, because that would be antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Zionists are cruel

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I think you misspelled “most ethical art in the world.”

Fuck israel

[+] philo 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Cethin 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Just Zionism and Israel (the government). It's because they funded Hamas to ensure Palestine couldn't become stable and have constantly expanded settlements to take more land. I'm against colonialism in general.

Arab Jews and Muslims lived in the region for centuries without much issue, but when the Zionists started coming over they caused issues. For example, one of the biggest aggravators is that many of the plantations were owned by Jews, and they started a policy to only hire other Jews, despite Arabs working there, who had built up more knowledge and skill, for decades or centuries prior. (This is all before the nation that calls itself Israel now existed, though the IDF was formed out of the militia groups of this time.)

However, one of the largest issues for many people is that the US (and other nations but mostly the US) are supporting their oppression. We aren't doing anything to help the under-privileged people of Palestine, but we're giving aid to Israel to help them kill them. We're also running cover for them diplomatically. Why the hell are we involved in it at all?

It has nothing to do with Jews, so please leave that wherever you got that idea from. No one mentioned Jews and it has nothing to do with religion or ethnicity at all. Come up with an actual defense for what I've stated that isn't just a strawman calling people anti-semitic.

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[–] Cethin 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It was you who wrote earlier in the very same comment and I will bold the pertinent part for emphasis.

For example, one of the biggest aggravators is that many of the plantations were** owned by Jews** and they started a policy to only hire other Jews,

First you speak about Zionists but suddenly pivot to Jews, that is where it becomes a problem.

Thats history. Them being Jewish has nothing to do with why I dislike what they're doing. Them being Jewish is the group they're supporting. They didn't only hire Zionists. They only hired Jews. They are Zionists because of this.

BTW, Jews in the US tend to hire other Jews especially for Jewish businesses and that is not a matter of Zionism. Arabs in the US tend to do the same.

This is probably because they're more likely to interact. That was not the case in Palestine (the region, not country). The Arab Muslims were the ones who had previously done the job. The European Jews coming in did not have experience in this job and definitely did not work at that plantation before. They were not just accidentally hiring Jews. It was an explicit policy to only hire them.

If you'd like to learn more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yishuv

Now instead of crying over nonsense, why don't you address the fact this this type of crap goes on in warzones all over the globe, but this is this hill you guys decide to make a stand on? Why a Jewish one in 2024 instead of the many other prior?

I love this. You only replied with "actually, you are anti-semitic" when I explicitly said don't use that strawman, and you have the audacity to say I'm crying over this "nonsense." Sure buddy.

This same stuff doesn't happen in every warzone to the same extent. For example: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-survivors-recount-harrowing-israeli-field-executions

Sure, civilians die in every war, but killing obvious civilians and civilian children is usually attempted to be avoided. It still happens, but rarely at this level. If you're just firing missiles then ok, you can't target perfectly. However, they put boots on the ground and are still going around building to building murdering civilians. That doesn't really happen in other wars. I don't think I've ever heard of a war where that happens actually. So yeah, this stuff does happen in other warzones, but not to the same level. It's also usually not done by an explicitly racist group with US support.

OK, now your turn to actually give a defence that isn't only calling me anti-semitic. Why is the murder of civilians to this extent acceptable and/or good? Why is the support of a terrorist organization with the goal to keep another country unstable so you can take the land for yourself acceptable and/or good? Why is the US support for this acceptable and/or good?

[+] philo 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Cethin 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Show me where EXACTLY in my own words I called you anti-semitic, not just your interpretation of my words.

When you say someone dislikes a group because they're Jews, that's saying they're anti-semitic. Sure, you didn't use the word, but you did say it. If I say you killed an innocent person, that's saying you're a murderer, regardless of if I said the word.

Show me where EXACTLY in my own words I said murdering of civilians was acceptable, not just your interpretation of my words.

When you excuse what they're doing as just another warzone, that's justifying it. It saying they're not doing anything worse than anyone else. It's saying that it's at least as acceptable as what every other nation is doing. Sure, technically you didn't say it was acceptable, but you did say it's just as acceptable as every other war. For example:

As if this type of crap doesn't go on in every warzone across the globe. But for some reason, you and some others find it perfectly fine to blame this type of atrocity on Zionism, Israel, and or the Jews? Why is that?

This is saying the only reason anyone is taking issue is because it's Israel (or because they're anti-semitic). It's creating a strawman to argue against instead of actually recognizing that what Israel is doing is different than every other warzone.

Seeing how it is different from other warzones, how do you justify it as the same? You still haven't given any defence. I'm assuming you didn't read the links I posted, but you should. After you do, let me know if you've changed your opinion, and if not how it's acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Israel, the USA, and their allies are committing genocide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Actually, china doesnt look that bad now

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you’ve never seen a C-section before grateful that you’re not currently picturing what one looks like without painkillers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

They have like a curtain/sheet up so you don't have to see what's going on... well that curtain fell when my wife was going through it, she was in too much pain to even notice... but holy shit it was like most of her insides were outside and they were just packing that shit back in her. Good thing I have cleaned a deer before, but it still wasn't cool. I totally see why that sheet is necessary for most.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Pregnant women are having C-sections without anaesthetic while others are forced to use scraps of tents in place of period products, aid workers say.

With more than 1.9 million Gazans displaced since 7 October, a tent "city" of almost two square miles has been set up in Rafah, south of the strip.

No food or medical supplies are allowed to enter the territory, including sanitary towels, tampons and contraceptive pills that could stop or delay periods.

Using unclean materials as sanitary products can cause a risk of infection and potentially deadly toxic shock syndrome.

A woman called Adara, who was forced to flee her home with her four children, said they "suffer a lot whenever we want to go to the bathroom" and have to "stand in line for a long time".

With clean running water incredibly sparse in Gaza, people there are falling well short of the 15 litres needed per person per day.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

That might be the most horrifying thing I’ve ever read. Jesus fucking Christ.

[+] philo 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[+] [email protected] -26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

FUCKKKKKK!!!!! A c-section with no pain killers?

Biden is going to win again and nothing will change.

I honestly wish Pakistan would just give up. I know it is an invasion to their territory, but damn. The pain their people are going through... They'd have better lives if they accepted Israel stole half of their land.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pakistan? This is some lib-ass American take.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Sorry, got mixed up. Come on, anyone can make a mistake. I obviously meant Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Hey don't worry about mixing up Palestine with Pakistan.

They too axed their democratic government with approval from Biden so the army could keep their ownership of Papa John's.

No that was not a false statement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Give up what, their life? They are trapped in a concentration camp.

Should the Jews in Auswitz just have moved somewhere else too?

[+] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Netanyahu is the one that just rejected a two state solution. Which alternate reality are you living in?

Also are you saying these women and children are Hamas?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's a pretty recent development. And as I said, I'm talking about the rebels, not about civilians. Civilians are clearly not the ones causing the war.

Why are you so salty, man? What are you arguing against?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No that's not a recent development. Netanyahu has been saying that for years. The wife of Yitzak Rabin blames Netanyahu for his death and for the prevention of the two state solution.

You say that Palestinians should give up the fight. Then when I say that these people are trapped you say "Do you think Hamas should continue the fight then".

This directly implies that all Palestinians are Hamas including these women.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When I say that Palestinians should give up the fight I'm obviously, by pure logic, talking about the Palestinians that are fighting. How can you give up the fight if you're not fighting?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck are you talking about. Hamas has a word it's called Hamas. Not Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hamas are Palestinians, and they aren't the only ones fighting. Dude, please, just be quiet. Logic is not your strong.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago

Give up the fight. Do you think Hamas should keep up the fight against Israel?

[+] [email protected] -57 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Undeveloped country, in an constant blockade by foreign force, ruled by extremists as sharia dictates, and "West" still make news about women over their menstrual cups like they lost it overnight.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What do you think a blockade does...? What do you think siege warfare does...?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Kills a lotta men, too. But in these propaganda pieces, it's always "women and children." Hamas knows what sells, and you're buying.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

…. What?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

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