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Anyone else more excited for Super Mario Bros Wonder then the Super Mario RPG remake? I didn't really think it needed a remake. You can play it everywhere. Pretty sure it's on Nintendo Online and then there is the SNES classic too. The graphical style in which high def models are turned into sprites are just so mid-90's. Replacing those with just generic HD Mario models seem a little lackluster or boring.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll probably skip Super Mario RPG, unless they pull a FF7.

I played the whole of the original, and it was fantastic.

That said, I think the target audience is folks that missed RPG the first time and want to experience it withv some rough edges sanded off. For that, I think it will be fantastic, again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I never played the original, but it's been on my list since back when I was still playing on emulators... Never got around to get it for Virtual Console either. So I am considering buying the remake once it's released!

I will probably also buy Wonder!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I suspect you'll be happy with the remake.

The trailer is full of perfectly recreated moments from the original game, just with better graphics.

Several moments in the trailer were kind of just saying "Remember this weird but fun thing? It's still here!".

As a fan on the original, the remake trailer looks very good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nah actually more excited for mario RPG, if only for the amazing remade music

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It isn’t on Switch online. Only emulation, snes classic, and now defunct virtual consoles had it.

It’s great that it got a proper remake, and it’s great that Nintendo made a new 2D Mario as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm excited to see everything they do with the remake, mainly the music, but I'm also more excited for Wonder. It looks like a much needed breath of fresh air for 2D Mario.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have played Mario RPG a few times in my life, including once within the past couple of years. The remake looks like a straight remaster with updated graphics, so I don't really have any desire to play it again, especially if it means paying $60 or whatever it will cost. But I think this game isn't really aimed at me. There are a lot of people who never played the original, including lots of young kids who weren't around when it came out. I think that is the main audience for this remake. And for them, I think this will be an exciting release, because the game is still awesome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can’t imagine they’re building the game off of the old original Mario RPG, so it’s definitely a remake. Remakes aren’t defined by their changes to gameplay, but by whether they’re built from the ground up or not.

I’d genuinely be blown away if they just remastered the original game after so much time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen like 3 reaction YouTubers pretty much groan when they first saw the Mario Bros trailer. That's really stupid if that's the concensus, because it looks really creative and cool. If more Mario Bros games are like that I'm all for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Youtubers are dumb as shit then. It looks so fun and I'm very excited.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've never played the original Mario RPG, so kinda excited to try it finally.

I just hope Super Mario Wonder doesn't feel too gimmicky, and that it has varied gameplay and mechanics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It looks very old now. I think the game is still great, but those pre-rendered graphics…I’m happy for it. That said, I’m more excited for Wonder as it looks more fresh.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Why not both?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I am very excited for both games, but the visual style of Super Mario Wonder looks stunning, I'm really glad they innovated with the visuals. We've been having the same plain looking 3d models for a while now and this is like a breath of fresh air.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I pretty much agree, maybe if they'd managed to somehow capture the weird feel of Mario RPG's prerendered sprites in real time it would have impressed me more? Not sure, but it definitely looked more generic than the original game in terms of graphical style. Plus I'm just not that excited to play it again for some reason, even though I loved the original.

However, Super Mario Wonder looked so creative, the surrealism drew me in and it seems like the perfect direction to take 2D Mario in. It's the one game in that Direct that I saw and was like "I need to play this".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Mario is fat and small, it's cute & I like it. You can like both of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Since RPG wasn't released in Europe, I didn't get to play it until I've already played and loved Paper Mario, so to me it was always just a less interesting version of that. I'm happy to see the 'forbidden game' come out of its black hole in a big way, but my interest is minimal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly don't care for remakes... I'm a fan of remasters when they're done right though. I think Super Mario Bros Wonder looks very creative in gameplay and animation. I think the game may also have weirded people out a bit, and that may be why no one is talking about it. I really hope it succeeds, I feel Nintendo has been lacking creativity recently (that's just my opinion though)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would you say the difference between a remake and a remaster is? Seem the same to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A remake changes little about the original game, only the graphics and sometimes the platform. A remaster enhances some of the weaker points of the game like map design, combat, and many other things. I'll use some examples. In the Halo Master Chief Collection, the only change in the original Halo game was the graphics (you could even switch between the old and new graphics with the tab key) In Black Mesa (a remaster of Half-Life) the game not only improved the graphics, it also improved upon the enemy AI, battlefields (even maps in general), and weapons. It also linked the story closer to Half-Life 2 and entirely re imagined Xen. So it's all really what changes are made.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other way around. A remake is just that, a remake of the original game from the ground up. A remaster is just touching up the graphics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oops, mixed it up. I guess a lot of game studios are mixing it up too, because most studios are calling remasters remakes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm excited for both, but I'm more excited about Wonder as well. I love 2D Mario games, and I was able to enjoy NSMBWii and NSMBU just fine; however, finishing U made me not want another standard 2D Mario game unless they were going to innovate like Rayman did with Origins/Legends or even Donkey Kong did with Returns/Tropical Freeze.

The new trailer showed off so many features that are brand-new, and I can't wait to get my hands on it. I could be wrong, but it also felt a lot like the reveal of 3D World where the first trailer was fine, but the second was bonkers and made it go from looking good to amazing.

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