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Is it due to what we eat, our social media, the alphabet propaganda machine (most likely)?

Let us have a discusion on this if possible.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What is the Democratic scaremongering and propaganda?

Democrats are shitty because they are generally corporate sellouts. Republicans do the scaremongering and propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like at this point, accurately reporting the state of the world counts as 'Democratic scaremongering.' Climate change is making the world less habitable. The coronavirus is capable of killing you. Some people will die as a direct result of the current forced-birth laws. It's possible to have a functioning society without racism and sexism. For some reason, these facts are all "political" and it's not the Democrats who are contesting them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Scaremongering is by definition fabricating or playing up dangers. These are real.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are you making a distinction between those who vote Democrat and the politicians in the party? I would say there is quite a difference there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mainstream media is generally propaganda, too, even lots of "left leaning" media.

For example, we don't hear about the war crimes committed by Ukraine, only ones by Russia.

We don't hear about how the US was actively working with right-wing groups in Ukraine to overthrow the government in 2014, efforts that helped further fracture relationship between Ukraine and Russia.

Or the military posturing by NATO in a geographically adjacent country to Russia.

War makes us forget nuance and accept simple absolute truths like Russia attacked Ukraine and therefore Ukraine must defend itself.

And for the record: fuck Russia for this ongoing conflict. They are the perpetrators, for sure. But all historical context to this conflict is completely thrown out in the eyes of the mainstream media.

Where are the anti-war democrats? Where are the people looking to end the war, rather than further fuel it with weapons? Nowhere to be found.

You know why? Because war makes too much money. Americans are paying to subsidize the cost of weapons to keep the war going. We the people are funding this.

We say "what are we supposed to do? Just let Russia invade Ukraine?" And then turn a blind eye to Palestinians occupied by Israel.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Where are the anti-war democrats?

Voting to send Ukraine all of the weapons and resources they can possibly use. That is the only legitimate anti-war stance. It's a remarkably black and white scenario where an authoritarian country invaded its democratic neighbor. Russia could end the war immediately simply by leaving. Ukraine, on the other hand, needs to actually win the war. Anything other than an absolute Ukrainian victory where Russia is forced out of all of Ukraine is a victory for war. The real-world anti-war position is that war must not be allowed to be an effective means of aggression. If war works, we get more war. When dictators learn that war doesn't work, we'll have less war. As long as Putin isn't willing to pull back his soldiers and abandon all claims to all Ukrainian land, the only other option is to defeat him in battle.

Anybody who opposes arming Ukraine is objectively pro-war because the only plausible outcome in that scenario is a Russian victory.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

to be fair, OP did say "Democrat and Republican scare mongering (etc)"

OP suggested "it" might be due to what we we eat. also OP explained NOTHING of what they meant.

OP is categorically a stain on all this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

For some reason, Republicans accuse their advisaries of the things they themselves are actually doing. My guess is that OP was Republican, has come to see that the Republicans are full of shit , bit still believes the lies they told about Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The two parties make sure that no third party can come up. This is a special flaw in the us american kind of (former) democracy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man this place needs a no politics rule or something

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

or at least no rhetorical questions looking for a circle -jerk

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Checked out this guy's profile, once again the fake enlightened centrist is really just a right winger.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I see them promoting the green party, and encouraging peiple to join unions and co-ops

Not seeing anything right wing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There are no centrists. Centrists are fine with the status quo which ensure power stays with the current holders. It's a conservative stance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Humans cannot resist the opportunity to feel like they belong to a group that looks down on others. So it doesnt really matter what the propaganda is, humans will always fall for it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alphabet propaganda machine?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

CIA, NSA, FBI, and so on...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I figured it meant ABC, NBC, CNN...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah, I see. I misunderstood. "Alphabet mafia" is a common pejorative for the LGBTQ+.

People normally refer to those shady collective government agencies as "three letter agencies".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Green Party is a mouthpiece for Russia. Look at this recent press release: https://www.cornelwest24.org/war_climate_and_my_presidential_campaign

I was going to try to explain how insane this release is, but honestly just read it for yourself.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

Stop.

I can't vote green any harder.

I'm sold already, no need to add more pros.

/s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it’s getting overrun recently with morons trying to pretend they don’t support conservative fascists while repeating their talking points and offering nothing but “both sides” BS and only criticizing the left wing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely true. But I can only get so worked up about it, so I just make fun of them.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Hello, Lemmy.

This is jimmydoreisalefty.

Nice to meet you!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

bOtH SiDeS!